Surely there’s a middle ground where a roof is made of something big and panel-sized, rather than a conventional roof with panels as another layer on top?

This is the roof of an industrial building near here which seems to go with that idea:

https://nabendynamo.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/20210426_1...

While not quite panel-sized, it's much larger tiles and there's not another roof underneath. Probably makes most sense with a new roof, though. The problem is that when a roof lasts 50--80 years, that's not a very big market just for new roofs.

Perfect. That scalloped (overlapping tiles) installation is The Correct Answer™.

Thanks for sharing.

Apologies, my google-fu is weak; I couldn't find more details. It's SON's building? I couldn't find that roof top at that address (using Google Maps).

Here's as far as I got: https://gemini.google.com/share/bef19f2b145c

Looks to be this building at that address and I can see the solar tiles on Google Maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ECbTUVwiUuDEPy6SA

The article from which I've linked the image is here (in German, though): https://nabendynamo.de/unser-neues-produktionsgebaeude-steht...

The roof is from Sunstyle, as detailed in the article: https://www.sunstyle.com/

Gemini seems to have read that article, taken a few details, embellished a few more, and not answered your question.

The middle ground is integrated solar panels, where you have normal sized panels but they are flush with the rest of the roof and there are no tiles underneath them. There are normal tiles surrounding the panels. This is the style I tend to see now for new builds, but it’s more expensive than just layering on the panels if your roof is already in good shape.

> The middle ground is integrated solar panels, where you have normal sized panels but they are flush with the rest of the roof and there are no tiles underneath them

Flush with the rest of the roof seems like a mistake. What if you need/want to replace them with a different sized panel?

Horses for courses relly. I think the panels are all standard sizes now as well? When done tastefully, they almost seamlessly blend with the tile (limits tile choices), certainly from a distance. Some new builds near me, you can’t really see the panels until up close. Raised panels do have an issue in that birds/rodents/etc. nest below them and can cause major damage if unchecked. This is why pest protection (unsightly up close) is a must. The major cost of dealing with nesting under panels comes from the labour and probable need for scaffolding etc. to resolve - i.e. minimum of £2k.

More importantly solar works more efficiently when the panels are cooler. There is a reason most installs have a chunky air gap underneath.

That and op said it's more expensive. Why would you do it flush, then? Looks? Eh, I prefer practicality over form and many architects would agree with being more honest.

THere is a middle ground which is this: https://www.wienerberger.co.uk/products/roof/in-roof-solar.h...

The big problem is that because there is no real ventilation, the panels get hotter and don't produce as much power.

What you put under them also has an effect on how waterproof your roof is long term, plus when you need to replace them finding ones that are the right size are also a pain.

There’re commonly used on new build houses in the UK — new roofs in the UK have a waterproof but breathable membrane under the tiles

Also see https://roofit.solar/ used in a few houses… mainly self build a or architect designed

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You can do that.

If you experience any failure, like a falling tree limb, you're now _required_ to replace panels to restore the integrity of your home.

It's far simpler to be able to just restore a roof, which any builder can do, and then come back and restore the panel layer again later.