> Yeah, I don't think you really learn a language with agentic coding
  > [...] 
  > And I refactor a lot because the LLM code is subpar for me.
This is learning.

> Yeah, I don't think you really learn a language with agentic coding, at least you wont become fluent writing it.

Don't misquote me for your agenda. It's a statement about the quality of learning.