So telling someone to make a table for you is more human than making it yourself, because you're using natural language instead of saws and hand planes?
The human world is full of special codes and obscure gestures that only have meaning if provided in the right sequence to the right people. Computer programming being documented and formalized makes it more accessible than many social circles.
I think we can agree that this is not something anybody will actually use, but rather an homage to "They Live", and IMHO, letting this be done by AI is in contrast to the basic premise of the movie.
That argument could be taken to any extreme at the end of the day. They Live, at its core, is a commentary on unrestrained capitalism. You could fault OP for using a Google browser. You could fault OP for using a Microsoft cloud repository. The line may be blurrier than one thinks...
So you consider calling something "ironic" an extreme position? On a more general note, you will find that many people are uncomfortable with the idea that AI will replace human work, especially when it relates to art, which this project in question references.
But there are many more tech things we take for granted that could be seen as ironic as well. I think I never saw this movie but being a young adult and an Internet nerd in the late '90s early -00s I remember perfectly how many people were negatively discussing it because it was dehumanizing, destroying personal relationships in flesh and a long etc. And while the future turned out to be not so good as some early adopter thought, it also never turned into something so bleak as detractors said it would.
I think this is false dichotomy. It's been a while since actually empowering and encouraging humans was considered normal and attempted at scale. But not that long. How quick we forget. I think it's worth getting back to.
People have jobs and lives, let them make things quick with the tools available if its for fun.
Interacting with a computer in natural language is much more human than typing in special codes and punctuation.
So telling someone to make a table for you is more human than making it yourself, because you're using natural language instead of saws and hand planes?
I would say yes, conversing between two humans, maybe even collaborating, is more human than a solitary human using inanimate objects.
Basket weaving is more human than conversation. Language is entry level artificial man.
Even if the table collapses down badly instead of doing a proper one with a good set of tools?
> telling someone to make a table for you is more human than making it yourself
That's a bad comparison. You have to compare crafting a table manually to doing it via CNC.
Imagine writing this comment on 2013 Hacker News with a straight face.
The human world is full of special codes and obscure gestures that only have meaning if provided in the right sequence to the right people. Computer programming being documented and formalized makes it more accessible than many social circles.
Are you writing code in a computer instead of using pen and paper? Preposterous!
What if it wouldn't get done otherwise?
(Genuine question as we're all trying to figure this shit out)
Why should anybody be interested in using software nobody was interested in making?
That's fine. Time is limited and well spent in many ways. I'm surprised this is high on someone's list, but I guess time can be worse spent, too.
I think we can agree that this is not something anybody will actually use, but rather an homage to "They Live", and IMHO, letting this be done by AI is in contrast to the basic premise of the movie.
What's the premise of the movie? I thought it was about psyops.
(Also interdimensional shapeshifting reptilians.)
The joke wasn't worth 10+ hours manual work
That argument could be taken to any extreme at the end of the day. They Live, at its core, is a commentary on unrestrained capitalism. You could fault OP for using a Google browser. You could fault OP for using a Microsoft cloud repository. The line may be blurrier than one thinks...
Any argument can be taken to any extreme. This is why it's a popular rhetorical tactic, called "appeal to extremes".
So, why did you use it in this case?
So you consider calling something "ironic" an extreme position? On a more general note, you will find that many people are uncomfortable with the idea that AI will replace human work, especially when it relates to art, which this project in question references.
But there are many more tech things we take for granted that could be seen as ironic as well. I think I never saw this movie but being a young adult and an Internet nerd in the late '90s early -00s I remember perfectly how many people were negatively discussing it because it was dehumanizing, destroying personal relationships in flesh and a long etc. And while the future turned out to be not so good as some early adopter thought, it also never turned into something so bleak as detractors said it would.
And I think the same will apply here, with GenAI.
It wouldn't have. I put this off for 11 years, the joke wasn't worth the manual effort required
AI is amazing at jumping into an unfamiliar codebase, it was probably 20 mins total work
We'd all be better off for it. I don't want you to take a shit on the table and call it dinner. Even if you don't cook.
I think this is false dichotomy. It's been a while since actually empowering and encouraging humans was considered normal and attempted at scale. But not that long. How quick we forget. I think it's worth getting back to.