Considering my use case (web apps), there already wasn't anything I couldn't do with Opus 4.5, the same will be true or were already true for more people in other releases, and at some point, which may have already passed, most people will stop finding qualitative leaps.
This doesn't always mean that there is a bottleneck in terms of raw power, it may also mean that your use cases (or the lower hanging fruits among them) are already covered.
For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3
If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping.
5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more
What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much rather use 5.5 on low then 5.4/5.3 on high/medium
My take is that demand is also increasing, so maybe they are making incremental improvements to model quality while focusing on improving inference costs. Prices are increasing though because even if they achieve a very efficient model, they are still selling at a loss.
This doesn't seem to be controlling for the number of turns in any way. Am I missing something?
Stronger models needing fewer turns to achieve a task feels like a prime source of efficiency gains for agentic coding, more so than individual responses being shorter.
They also don't mention what their sample size is, or anything about the distribution of input and response lengths.
It'd be interesting to see the distributions if the author actually plotted the data, so we could see if their analysis holds water or not.
A plot of the input lengths using ggplot2 geom_density with color and fill by model, 0.1 alpha, and an appropriate bandwidth adjustment would allow us to see if the input data distribution looks similar across the two, and using the same for the output length distributions, faceted by the input length bins would give us an idea if those look the same too.
Edit: Or even a faceted plot using input bins of output length/input length.
it does seem like a step change in token efficiency, though based on the earlier artificial analysis reporting it's also quite the cost lottery and i'm not sure i am comfortable with that
Quality would be performance against different given benchmarks, I assume?
There's multiple open weight models you can run on a pretty standard computer at home, which match the quality of GPT 4. I guess that would also change the equation.
anything that compares proprietary models will be very miscalibrated and may not be indicative, there have been too many model changes in both chat and the api where model providers did not even say the word before it got too noticable
I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?
Considering my use case (web apps), there already wasn't anything I couldn't do with Opus 4.5, the same will be true or were already true for more people in other releases, and at some point, which may have already passed, most people will stop finding qualitative leaps.
This doesn't always mean that there is a bottleneck in terms of raw power, it may also mean that your use cases (or the lower hanging fruits among them) are already covered.
Are you running gpt-5.5 on xhigh reasoning? Because I'm seeing a clear difference between that and gpt-5.4 on xhigh.
For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3
If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping.
5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more
What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much rather use 5.5 on low then 5.4/5.3 on high/medium
My take is that demand is also increasing, so maybe they are making incremental improvements to model quality while focusing on improving inference costs. Prices are increasing though because even if they achieve a very efficient model, they are still selling at a loss.
> Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?
So quickly - this industry has had trillions thrown around to get here so quickly, heh.
But, yes, capability seems somewhat stagnant. It's about ISO perf and cost improvements or iso cost and perf improvements + agentic.
This doesn't seem to be controlling for the number of turns in any way. Am I missing something?
Stronger models needing fewer turns to achieve a task feels like a prime source of efficiency gains for agentic coding, more so than individual responses being shorter.
They also don't mention what their sample size is, or anything about the distribution of input and response lengths.
It'd be interesting to see the distributions if the author actually plotted the data, so we could see if their analysis holds water or not.
A plot of the input lengths using ggplot2 geom_density with color and fill by model, 0.1 alpha, and an appropriate bandwidth adjustment would allow us to see if the input data distribution looks similar across the two, and using the same for the output length distributions, faceted by the input length bins would give us an idea if those look the same too.
Edit: Or even a faceted plot using input bins of output length/input length.
I think it should be tested on goals.
E.g. Crack this puzzle, fix this code so these tests pass. (A human can verify it doesn't cheese things).
it does seem like a step change in token efficiency, though based on the earlier artificial analysis reporting it's also quite the cost lottery and i'm not sure i am comfortable with that
Has any enterprising hacker here yet graphed price vs "output" over time since 2023, taking "quality" into account?
That's got to be a very tricky analysis given how subjective quality is. But I'm sure there are people trying to pin it down.
Quality would be performance against different given benchmarks, I assume?
There's multiple open weight models you can run on a pretty standard computer at home, which match the quality of GPT 4. I guess that would also change the equation.
anything that compares proprietary models will be very miscalibrated and may not be indicative, there have been too many model changes in both chat and the api where model providers did not even say the word before it got too noticable
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