by law, then by unrest, then by revolution.

By law is how we got to where we currently are. There's no reason to think that would change. You'd have to trick all the people who are old (plus all the people who realize they will get old too) to vote away their assets, income, and power.

Unrest will just harden the people who see your cause as unjust against it. That will be a strong majority of people, so will go no where.

Revolution seems highly unlikely to succeed -- it would be unpopular and you'd have to turn much of the military/police to your side.

Frankly, I think the push of the idea of the intergenerational conflict is a con. It will not lead to anything getting better, but when people are angry and scared, they become vulnerable.

Be wary of anyone offering big, impossible promises. They'll be sticking their hands into your wallet soon enough.

So, what exactly do you think will happen? Nothing? You've ruled out every other alternative.

Yes, nothing. Your intergenerational war isn't even going to start.

The societal problems we face are real. Framing them as young/good vs. old/bad is effectively the same as ignoring them entirely.

You should be looking for a different framing.

> Unrest will just harden the people who see your cause as unjust against it. That will be a strong majority of people, so will go no where.

I think you're wrong here. Most people are pretty fed up right now.

If most people were fed up I think you'd see it in voting patterns.

Instead, a substantial fraction of the population don't care enough to vote one way or the other. Those that do vote have been pushing us toward the system we have now.

It's going to be hard to sell policies that disenfranchise old people...

There are a lot of people who don't want to be penniless and homeless with a diminished capacity to work. That includes people who are old already and people who realize they will become old.

That's why I think this is all a scam. We are, almost all of us, old people or people who hope to get old. This is an effort to get us all upset enough at each other that we don't stop to realize we're fighting ourselves.

It you want to unravel the scam, follow the money.

>It's going to be hard to sell policies that disenfranchise old people...

Not at all. Remember how before he got dementia the president ran on an antidementia platform?

> That's why I think this is all a scam. We are, almost all of us, old people or people who hope to get old. This is an effort to get us all upset enough at each other that we don't stop to realize we're fighting ourselves.

Not at all, it's just a fact that old people have arranged things so that old/young is simply more important than left/right. Old people are absolutely committed to protecting and boosting the stock/real-estate markets that young people are locked out of. The market is not the economy.. except that actually for old people with assets, it basically is. Youth may have left/right preferences, but establishment Left/Right are really just Old, and both have clear and stable intent to inflict economic violence on everyone else.

> It you want to unravel the scam, follow the money.

You're suggesting I'm a shil? The money trail is simple.. people don't have much and things are getting worse. Who's in charge now? Who was in charge before that? And who was in charge before that? Who paid off the people in charge? Who continuously benefits and who suffers?

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