You're not seriously trying to explain that a kWh is equal to a kWh. Why not cut the crap? Are you trying to say washing clothes is of equal importance to convenience features in a browser, given that we can use each clean kWh only once? I can't tell what you truly mean like this
>a kWh is equal to a kWh
Yes, and it's none of your business how other people spend their electricity.
That's where we disagree. With our current system so reliant on fossil fuels, every kWh generated is a debt to our planet, our society.
Until that's resolved, I don't wish that debt incurred for frivolous uses.
What do you mean you "disagree"? I pay for the electricity I use and I use it however I want.
Instead of trying to control other people, why can't you start with yourself? Throw away your phone/computer. Go live in a small hut. Practice what you preach.
You are not paying for the total cost of the electricity you use.
You pay for a portion of it, in money.
The other portion of it is belched up into the atmosphere for future generations to pay.
You are incurring debt and forcing it upon others.
>You are incurring debt and forcing it upon others.
You seem to have no problem whatsoever with using electricity yourself. So when do you get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live? And when does it stop? Btw, this is all bizarrely dramatic since we were talking about small local models anyway.
>future generations
Yeah, and some will also say (using the same arguments) that having children is harmful to the planet and we need "measures" to limit that too.
Why do you get to tell me (or anyone else) how to live? Why do you get to decide that burning my forest is acceptable?
Not interested, go away.
You read what I wrote, you just chose not to engage with it and went into an ideological creed instead.
You may pay for it, but I and the rest of the planet incur the cost.
I can go live the life of a hermit and the above will still be true.
Your electricity use puts more pollution into our air. It burns our forests. It kills species we all depend on.
No man is an island. Your actions affect others. Just paying your indulgences does not make that basic fact away.
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Still no engagement with actual arguments brought up several posts ago at this point. Still more attempts at derailment.
Speaks for itself. I shall leave it at this then.
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>until we coerce the more repugnant parts of society
Go away, troll.
You will notice I let you state your views without going absolutely deranged and resorting to ad-hominems.
Why can I not state my philosophical positions without you absolutely freaking out?
If you disagree, you should be able to articulate why. But you don't. Why?
Is it narrow-mindedness? Insecurity? Fear of debate? A nagging feeling I might be right and it would absolutely destroy your identity to admit so?
>until we coerce the more repugnant parts of society
I noticed. Shoo, troll.