> it's 100% fine (and healthy) to care about things in life.
Yes it is and I didn't claim it wasn't, so this is a strawman.
There's nothing personally indicting about having low testosterone. It's relatively common and it's potentially a serious medical condition. There is no reason to take offense from this.
> I wanted to add a counter to that and say they are very normal and support them rather than suggest they go to the doctor.
I don't see a reason to counter anything I said. I offered neutral information that may help the OP. If the OP's testosterone levels are indeed low due to a serious medical condition, then you've just done them a major disservice. Even if you're of the opinion that it's normal, it's reasonable for someone else to assess that feeling sadness to the degree of provoking tears in response to deciding not to use productivity software is a cause for concern.
The point I was making in my initial reply was in response to the trivialization of what someone else cares about ("sad enough to cry over productivity software"). That to me is by definition judgmental.
I don't believe there is a universal list of things that is OK to care deeply enough to cry about.
There are plenty of things you would cry about that I would not, but I can understand why you would care deeply about those things. Or maybe you are of the opinion that crying isn't allowed at all. Which is also an opinion.
My use of "judgmental" was to communicate that my intention was not to pass judgment on his worth as a person or his worthiness of respect as a person or professional in me providing honest feedback about his behavior.
> I don't believe there is a universal list of things that is OK to care deeply enough to cry about.
It's not about prescribing when it's OK to cry or trivializing what he's sad about, it's about deviations from average behavior. The vast majority of emotionally well-adjusted men usually only cry at the death of a loved one or during a divorce or serious break-up. Here's data on that: https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/51961-the-who-what-where-w... To find yourself crying in a situation different from those situations should raise a red flag. Yes it may be the case that it's not a sign of anything serious but given the rarity of the situation, it's reasonable to suspect there may be something else at play, e.g. low testosterone.
This is not good intentioned, you're a jerk, and it's 100% fine (and healthy) to care about things in life.
> This is not good intentioned
On what are you basing that?
> it's 100% fine (and healthy) to care about things in life.
Yes it is and I didn't claim it wasn't, so this is a strawman.
There's nothing personally indicting about having low testosterone. It's relatively common and it's potentially a serious medical condition. There is no reason to take offense from this.
Becuase you're associating their reaction to "a serious medical condition" because it is "not normal."
I wanted to add a counter to that and say they are very normal and support them rather than suggest they go to the doctor.
My assessment of your intentions was wrong, as I can't know that, but I stand by the other two statements.
> I wanted to add a counter to that and say they are very normal and support them rather than suggest they go to the doctor.
I don't see a reason to counter anything I said. I offered neutral information that may help the OP. If the OP's testosterone levels are indeed low due to a serious medical condition, then you've just done them a major disservice. Even if you're of the opinion that it's normal, it's reasonable for someone else to assess that feeling sadness to the degree of provoking tears in response to deciding not to use productivity software is a cause for concern.
I appreciate the sentiment.
The point I was making in my initial reply was in response to the trivialization of what someone else cares about ("sad enough to cry over productivity software"). That to me is by definition judgmental.
I don't believe there is a universal list of things that is OK to care deeply enough to cry about. There are plenty of things you would cry about that I would not, but I can understand why you would care deeply about those things. Or maybe you are of the opinion that crying isn't allowed at all. Which is also an opinion.
> That to me is by definition judgmental.
My use of "judgmental" was to communicate that my intention was not to pass judgment on his worth as a person or his worthiness of respect as a person or professional in me providing honest feedback about his behavior.
> I don't believe there is a universal list of things that is OK to care deeply enough to cry about.
It's not about prescribing when it's OK to cry or trivializing what he's sad about, it's about deviations from average behavior. The vast majority of emotionally well-adjusted men usually only cry at the death of a loved one or during a divorce or serious break-up. Here's data on that: https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/51961-the-who-what-where-w... To find yourself crying in a situation different from those situations should raise a red flag. Yes it may be the case that it's not a sign of anything serious but given the rarity of the situation, it's reasonable to suspect there may be something else at play, e.g. low testosterone.
Men must be going through a lot of breakups and deaths!
26% have cried in the last week
39% have cried in the last month
64% have cried in the last year
> Becuase you're associating their reaction to "a serious medical condition" because it is "not normal."
Weak man argument. They said low T is "potentially" a serious condition.