As far as I'm aware there's no media government control in democratic western countries (yet).

The LLMs aren't trained on "official news", if there's such a thing in Western countries - at best government press releases, is that what you mean by "official news"?

So I don't see how that's censoring/manipulation of an LLM.

Like for example, Wikipedia is a Western construction and would never exist in China, or Russia, without government supervision (rendering it useless).

When you say "rich capitalists and warmongers control the narrative", where does that happen? I mean practically.

It's like your conception of western media is similar to China and Russia, where censorship, control and filters are applied.

> They manipulate the training data instead of censoring the model, but the result is the same.

Do you have any proof of this?

> When you say "rich capitalists and warmongers control the narrative", where does that happen? I mean practically.

i don't agree with the hyperbolic nature of the op here but if you're sincerely interested in the question this is what chomsky and herman (imo quite persuasively) argue in Manufacturing Consent. attaching a profit motive to the distribution of new information, particularly in an economy that tends towards centralization of, necessarily biases what news is printed.

it's certainly not as visually dramatic or directly controlled an effect as the prc's top-down model, but markets are effective.