I don't understand why Americans continue believing that democracy is the only way for every population in the world

Why would Russians want democracy? Or the Chinese, for that matter? There have been zero democratic impulses in their societies across hundreds, even thousands of years.

The west needs to rest its democratizing mission and accept that every society is fundamentally different

My country (India) got a "thriving" democracy, but because there is no real democratic impulse in the society, everything on the ground has devolved into what the society was always like - quasi-feudal bureaucracy

> I don't understand why Americans continue believing that democracy is the only way for every population in the world

They don't! The majority voted for the guy who wants to, admittedly (multiple times), be a dictator and is huge fan of other dictators. If he finds a way to stay for a 3rd term his most loyal followers along with all the republicans in Congress will be just fine with it.

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>I don't understand why Americans continue believing that democracy is the only way for every population in the world

Well, ideology. I believe my way is the only way for every population in the world too, and I fight for it to happen. Of course, each place adapts to their own condition, but I believe my core ideology is the way for humanity as a whole, and I believe it is the same for people who defend western american-style democracy.

What part of "defending western american-style democracy" involves imposing it on other countries and being mad when they don't adopt it?

> I don't understand why Americans continue believing that democracy is the only way for every population in the world

It's not Americans, it's educated people who believe in personal liberties.

> Why would Russians want democracy

Because they would have a choice if they want to be robbed blind by a bunch of oligarchs, and if they want to be sanctioned off from the world because the supreme leader decided he wants to kill and maim a million Russians to achieve nothing more than killing Ukrainian civillians.

> There have been zero democratic impulses in their societies across hundreds, even thousands of years

Absurdly bad historic revisionism. Russia had democratic impulses in 1917 and 1990, both hijacked and went nowhere. China's 1911 revolution was also overtly democratic in nature, but was also hijacked.

> It's not Americans, it's educated people who believe in personal liberties.

I find this attitude deeply parochial and colonial. Who are these so-called "educated people" (most of whom would be in western developed nations) to decide what sort of governance system a country should have?

The democratic revolution in America and France came from its own people. If the Russians or the Chinese want democracy, they'll get it on their own

Western hand-wringing about the "lack of democracy" in foreign (usually poorer) countries is just concern-colonialism. I think most of these educated people should focus on their own countries and let the rest of the world be

> I find this attitude deeply parochial and colonial. Who are these so-called "educated people" (most of whom would be in western developed nations) to decide what sort of governance system a country should have?

Do you think only people in western countries want a democratic system of governenance for their country?

> If the Russians or the Chinese want democracy, they'll get it on their own

Both of them tried it, but were denied.

> Or the Chinese, for that matter?

The marched for it en masse in 1989?

Russians and Chinese are also people. They deserve to rule themselves.

An ideologically driven subset of urban educated youths that was proportionally a tiny subset of the entire Chinese population marched for it in 1989. FTFY.

They are ruling themselves in the sense that their governing systems are emergent consequences of their own cultures. All peoples ultimately deserve the governments they have.

You could say the exact same thing about the cultural revolution.

The Americans marched en masse to get rid of ICE, right?

Guess the Tiananmen square tank man is a victim, but Alex Pretti and Renee Good are just statistics

(The tank man wasn't even run down by the tank - Good was shot for merely turning the wheels in the wrong direction)

Americans really need to shut up about any democratic values or humans rights and clean up their own mess before preaching to the world

> The Americans marched en masse to get rid of ICE, right?

No.

> Guess the Tiananmen square tank man is a victim, but Alex Pretti and Renee Good are just statistics

Pretti started a fight with a cop in the middle of arresting someone while carrying a gun, Renee Good drove over a cop.

The Tiananmen square tank man didn't attack anyone.