To me, it makes jujutsu look like the Nix of VCSes.
Not meaning to offend anyone: Nix is cool, but adds complexity. And as a disclaimer: I used jujutsu for a few months and went back to git. Mostly because git is wired in my fingers, and git is everywhere. Those examples of what jujutsu can do and not git sound nice, but in those few months I never remotely had a need for them, so it felt overkill for me.
Tbf you wouldn't use/switch to jj for (because of) those kind of commands, and are quite the outlier in the grand list of reasons to use jj. However the option to use the revset language in that manner is a high-ranking reason to use jj in my opinion.
The most frequent "complex" command I use is to find commits in my name that are unsigned, and then sign them (this is owing to my workflow with agents that commit on my behalf but I'm not going to give agents my private key!)
I hadn't even spared a moment to consider the git equivalent but I would humbly expect it to be quite obtuse.Actually, signing was one of the annoying parts of jujutsu for me: I sign with a security key, and the way jujutsu handled signing was very painful to me (I know it can be configured and I tried a few different ways, but it felt inherent to how jujutsu handles commits (revisions?)).
The only reasonable way to use signing in jj is with the sign-on-push config https://docs.jj-vcs.dev/latest/config/#automatically-signing... rather than as commits are made
Why? I have my signing behavior set to own and I haven't noticed any issues, but I don't actually rely on signatures for much.
If you need to type in a password to unlock your keychain (e.g. default behavior for gpg-agent), then signing commits one at a time constantly is annoying.
Does "own" try to sign working copy snapshot commits too? That would greatly increase the number and frequency of signatures.
Ah, I use my SSH key to sign my commits and I don't have a password on my SSH key.
> Does "own" try to sign working copy snapshot commits too?
Yes
It's the dvorak of git... Maybe more efficient but incompatible with everyone else and a very loud vocal minority.
You can find this pattern again and again. How many redditors say 120fps is essential for gaming or absolutely require a mechanical keyboard?
It's totally compatible though, and that's a big selling point. I use jj and nobody else at my work uses it and that has never been an issue.
I think the "incompatible" was more in the dvorak sense, which I believe is that whenever you are on another computer, it most likely won't have dvorak.
For jujutsu, it's fine on your own computer, but you probably have to use git in the CI or on remote servers. And you probably started with git, so moving to jujutsu was an added effort (similar to dvorak).
It doesn’t support submodules. So no, not totally compatible.
That's a feature, not a bug /s
Yeah I think that dvorak is a good example, too.
I don't get the mechanical keyboard one, though. I am fine with any keyboard, I just like my mechanical keyboard at home. Just like I am fine with any chair, but ideally I would have a chair I like at home.
120fps I have no experience with, but I would imagine it's closer to video quality. Once you're used to watching everything in 4K, probably it feels frustrating to watch a 1080p video. But when 4K did not exist, it was not a need. I actively try to not get used to 4K because I don't want to "create the need" for it :-).
Looks like the Perl of Git too. Those commands are wild compared to vanilla git.
I don't even like using "natural" keyboards despite the ergonomic advantage because it ruins my muscle memory when I'm on the (much more prevalent) "regular" keyboard.
I mean let's not be hasty. Mechanical keyboards used to be just normal keyboards when computers were still computers.
That is a fair argument. I don't know why they dropped out of favour - price? Noise?
My guess would be price. Shoppers probably got more sensitive to the price of a keyboard as the price of computers dropped, and approximately none of them were choosing between two computer-bundles at the store with any regard for keyboard quality.
No, jj is super simple in daily use, in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias). This include stuff that in git is a total mess of complexity like dealing with rebases. So not judge the tool for this odd case.
> in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias)
I don't use aliases, I guess I'm insane?
Also 99.9% of the time, git "just works" for me. If I need to do something special once a year, I can search for it. Like I would with jujutsu.
One rarely needs more from git than `git add -A && git commit -m`.
I rebase stacked diffs all the time so jj makes my life so much easier because its rebasing is much more ergonomic than git.
this seems very easy in git tho how much easier can it get, do you have an example of each of them?
Git rebases don't work if there are conflicts, jj doesn't have this problem. Also idk if you can rebase onto multiple parents with git but jj can do it.
Can you explain how conflicts are not conflicts?
If I change a line of code several times and rebase on to a branch that changed the same lines of code, how are you sure what the right one is?