U are arguing against a person who isnt there. I also have done similar and my mind was not thinking specifically prompt the whole output. I think people have this kneejerk to anything that isnt total negativity of ai in the creative space. It is only a tool.
The nuclear bomb is only a tool.
Ditto nerve gas, and the rack.
Tools absolutely _can_ have moral valence.
Beyond that, they can also be more or less effective for a variety of purposes.
I spent decades to achieve solid competence at a few different skills, and my experience of genAI thus far is that it can easily give the user the delusion of mastery, ensuring the user does not develop true skills, trapped in the false belief that they can do everything they want to or ever would want to.
The process of struggling to learn new skills showed me new worlds of possibility I would never have discovered or explored without first developing those skills.
There are very legitimate reasons why so many artists and musicians hate genAI.
The escalation is weird. A comparison to violence and the atomic bomb is silly.
Like i said before, you are talking past me as if i were some other person. I agree there are many legitimate reasons. I never said there werent.
This is that knee jerk reaction. Violence and atom bombs. There is so much ai llm or otherwise that is already deeply embedded in our lives some bad but some of it is actually good. Which is my point. Not even the atomic bomb wasnt without some positive use of the technology.
Edge cases are useful examples. If I had picked less controversial, weaker ones, people would be more prone to dispute that tools can have moral implications of themselves.
You are absolutely right that I have a deep-seated hatred of LLMs being used for any of the manifold purposes I think they are manifestly unfit for.
My reaction is not knee-jerk, however - I have been watching the LLMs evolve since about 2019, letting my opinion form slowly while attending to them and seeing their capabilities improve.
I have concluded they are one of the rare tools whose worst uses are so awful that it is better to develop societal norms against their use and forgo the few benefits rather than risk their worst consequences.
I have very little hope of that happening, humans being what we are, but it is the perspective I have developed after a lot of slow, careful thought.
As far as arguing past you, I don't think I'm arguing at all.
I have shared my opinion, experiences and perspective, and that perspective is certainly very harsh on genAI.
As far as I can see, I have not written anything that disputes anything you've claimed it written, prior to this comment.