It's really funny how people can say these things online without giving them a second thought. There are literal weapons being produced that are killing people daily. But no, it's the meme generator that's evil.
Because this is a tech forum, not a weapons forum. I'd wager that a sizeable chunk of folk decrying AI/LLMs in this manner also do, in fact, decry the same weapons you refer to. They just do it elsewhere because it's not typically on-topic here.
Context is tech, I agree. Is there no tech in weapons? Palantir? Drones? Are there developers that are proud when they made the kill machine 1% more precise; more optimized?
I think the evil part is putting it in the hands of the general public. The ability to create propaganda and deep fakes gives everyone a powerful tool for manipulation. The rich and powerful are going to do whatever the want, anyway. Everyone having access to that same tool doesn't make it any less dangerous.
There's nothing inherently evil about a knife. Standing outside of a high school and handing a knife to every kid walking in is pretty evil though.
This has been possible for pretty much the entire history of humanity. The bar has been lowered, but not by a lot imho.
I don't disagree on the rest, and I didn't say there aren't bad uses, but there are many many good uses for AI/Sora. You can't say the same for weapons.
violence at scale is often facilitated by and preceded by propaganda at scale, which is one of Sora’s only applications. Certain things are obvious to normal people, like “propaganda is real, powerful, bad, and historical of enormous significance”.
Very little potential to be used for good and quite some potential to be used for bad. I think the ratio is particularly damning, rather than the total evil.
It's really funny how people can say these things online without giving them a second thought. There are literal weapons being produced that are killing people daily. But no, it's the meme generator that's evil.
Because this is a tech forum, not a weapons forum. I'd wager that a sizeable chunk of folk decrying AI/LLMs in this manner also do, in fact, decry the same weapons you refer to. They just do it elsewhere because it's not typically on-topic here.
Context is tech, I agree. Is there no tech in weapons? Palantir? Drones? Are there developers that are proud when they made the kill machine 1% more precise; more optimized?
Plenty of HN threads about Palantir and drones also have people commenting about their evil.
Just because one thing is a lesser/different kind doesn't mean we can't also be vigilant about it as well.
I'm not arguing that, OP said
> RIP to one of the most evil products I've seen come out of the tech industry in my lifetime.
I'm saying Sora isn't even in the top 100 of most evil products out of the tech industry.
I think the evil part is putting it in the hands of the general public. The ability to create propaganda and deep fakes gives everyone a powerful tool for manipulation. The rich and powerful are going to do whatever the want, anyway. Everyone having access to that same tool doesn't make it any less dangerous.
There's nothing inherently evil about a knife. Standing outside of a high school and handing a knife to every kid walking in is pretty evil though.
> The ability to create propaganda
This has been possible for pretty much the entire history of humanity. The bar has been lowered, but not by a lot imho.
I don't disagree on the rest, and I didn't say there aren't bad uses, but there are many many good uses for AI/Sora. You can't say the same for weapons.
Genuinely curious what the [morally] good use cases for Sora would be.
violence at scale is often facilitated by and preceded by propaganda at scale, which is one of Sora’s only applications. Certain things are obvious to normal people, like “propaganda is real, powerful, bad, and historical of enormous significance”.
This is textbook whataboutism.
Yes, literal weapons are bad, too. But that's not the current topic.
> one of
Really? A video meme generator is making your top evil products list?
Very little potential to be used for good and quite some potential to be used for bad. I think the ratio is particularly damning, rather than the total evil.
This is just a product that offers access to a model, and they did as much as they could to make sure it didn't output anything non-kosher.
Video gen is going nowhere, and there's already models out there with less safety measures. So there's no RIP to the evil product.
You're being willfully blind to how video generation platforms like this are already being used.