No one who matters uses HN or cares about HN. The handful of us on HN who are in or near a position to affect change are basically here due to habit or $#itposting until we get banned.
So they are right in that sense - commenting on HN is cathartic but ultimately useless.
And the people who matter and are against this also don't use HN because they view this platform as toxic and reactionary.
There are software engineers who directly work for the platforms lobbying for this whom post here.
ICs don't matter. I can fire one and hire 5, and increasingly, the demographics on HN don't align with those who work in those organizations.
HN is basically slashdot now.
> and increasingly, the demographics on HN don't align with those who work in those organizations.
People have been worried about that on HN for years, but I still see the same culture. There do seem to be more bots and astroturfing, but that's a systemic issue with all social media platforms today.
> People have been worried about that on HN for years, but I still see the same culture...
And that's the crux of the issue - the industry and people have changed, but HN hasn't changed discourse wise and is growing increasingly disconnected demographically speaking.
A large portion of HNers are men in their late 30s to 50s, and no longer located in the Bay Area or NYC.
No one's who matters is having these kinds of conversations on HN - they're meeting IRL with Luma invites or in signal/imessage/discord group chats.