It’s possible to manage the quarterly expectations by saying “we can improve metric X by 10% in a quarter”. It’s often possible to find an improvement that you’re very confident of making very quickly. Depending on how backwards the company is you may need to hide the fact that the 10% improvement required a one line change after a month of experimentation, or they’ll fight you on the experimentation time and expect that one line to take 5 minutes, after which you should write lots more code that adds no value.

Agile isn’t a good match for a business that can only think in terms of effort and not learning+value. That doesn’t make agile the problem.

My experience in an agile firm was that they hired a lot of experienced people and then treated them like juniors. Actively allergic to thinking ahead.

To get around the problem that deliverables took more than a few days, actual tasks would be salami sliced down into 3 point tickets that simply delivered the starting state the next ticket needed. None of these tickets being completed was an actual user observable deliverable or something you could put on a management facing status report.

Each task was so time boxed, seniors would actively be upbraided in agile ceremonies for doing obvious next steps. 8 tickets sequentially like - Download the data. Analyze the data. Load a sample of the data. Load all the data. Ok now put in data quality tests on the data. OK now schedule the daily load of the data. OK now talk to users about the type of views/aggregations/API they want on the data. OK now do a v0 of that API.

It's sort of interesting because we have fully transitioned from the agile infantilization of seniors to expecting them to replace a team of juniors with LLMs.

I have so many thoughts:

Depending on the reality, either that company doesn't understand agile very well, or you didn't understand the importance of the small steps.

A plan is not made agile by being split into many small sequential steps; what would make this agile is learning from each step and being prepared to scrap steps 2-8 if step 1 turns out to be enough. Usually this attitude results in splits that make more sense and do add user value.

OTOH I've seen many experienced folks get tripped up because it's easy to get consumed and not evaluate work vs the customer value when you're in the middle of a big task.

For example on an internationalisation project a dev thought: "Every translation key is handled the same way in Rails, let me just do them all at once"; spent weeks with the appearance of no progress because they were working through many cases often slightly more complicated than imagined. They said out loud ~ "I'm not working just for the sake of a task board, the work needs to be done, let's be better than box ticking, it's all one logically consistent piece of work".

I had to interrupt to point out that most of the pages were either about to be deleted or were only needed later. Meanwhile we had tons of work that needed this person's attention on things that were of immediate importance.

It's also important to work in a way that a high number of PRs is not a penalty. It's a smell if we're motivated to reduce the number of PRs because shipping PRs feels difficult.

> and then treated them like juniors

You shouldn't put juniors in a strict short time box either. At least not for long.

People don't grow if they can't think about the results of their work. If if your juniors can't grow, you could as well not hire any.

Heh, sounds like Goodhart's law gone wild at that place.

Maybe. It might also have nothing to do with ill-conceived attempts at evaluation. I sometimes suggest teams work in steps that small (usually because they don't have the experience to handle something bigger) and it has nothing to do with evaluating the team. It has everything to do with them learning to move precisely and avoid mistakes.

Yes - how to complete story points without actually solving any problems