When an SVP asks you to do something in a mass email, it's very much optional. Dave Treadwell is an SVP, his org is likely in the 10's of thousands, there is no way to even have a mandatory meeting for that many people.

My SVP asks me to do things all the time, indirectly. I do probably 5% of them.

> org is likely in the 10's of thousands, there is no way to even have a mandatory meeting for that many people.

Ok, this is pretty off-topic, but is this still true? I get that you can't have 10K people all actively participate in the meeting at the same time, but doesn't Zoom have a feature where you can broadcast to thousands and thousands?

Doesn't X/Twitter have a feature like this? (Although, to be fair, the last time I heard about that it was part of a headline like "DeSantis announcement of Presidential run on X/Twitter delayed for hours as X/Twitter's tech stack collapses under 200K viewers")

But still - nowadays it seems like it should be possible to have 10K employees all tune in at the same time and then call it a meeting, yes?

Yes, but at that point it's an all-hands presentation, and you are basically doing a very careful presentation, thinking about every minute, because of how many hours the "meeting" is costing you.

Very different from the typical weekly/montly outage meeting, where discussion is actually expected, instead of being a ritual.

The meeting isn't the hard part—after all, shareholder meetings have huge audiences too. Enforcing mandatory attendance for myriads of employees is the hard part, so it's more likely mandatory in name only.

With tens of thousands in a meeting, cracking a 30-second stupid joke is probably costing several thousand dollars.

Right, but if you say something essential in a meeting with 10 people and it has to percolate through five levels of management to reach the front-lines and gets watered down, that could be much more lost, even millions.

Scale cuts both ways.

What matters isn't how big the meeting is, it's how important the material is, and how well presented it is.

It's worth 10x that because they are all AI powered super devs now /sarc

If you assume everyone is making 100k it only takes 20 people in a meeting for it to cost 1k.

Wasn't it Shopify who had a system for tracking how much each meeting cost based on attendees? I may be misremembering the company though

i think closer to tens-of-thousands-of-dollars, by my napkin math!

Worth it!

so.... is RTO optional