Not sure how they can expect to make a viable full OS without massive use of LLMs, so this makes no sense.
What makes sense if that of course any LLM-generated code must be reviewed by a good programmer and must be correct and well written, and the AI usage must be precisely disclosed.
What they should ban is people posting AI-generated code without mentioning it or replying "I don't know, the AI did it like that" to questions.
The problem is the increasing review burden - with LLMs it is possible to create superficially valid looking (but potentially incorrect) code without much effort, which will still take a lot of effort to review. So outright rejecting code that can identified as LLM-generated at a glance, is a rough filter to remove the lowest effort PRs.
Over time this might not be enough, though, so I suspect we will see default deny policies popping up soon enough.
>Not sure how they can expect to make a viable full OS without massive use of LLMs, so this makes no sense.
Why not?
Because it takes a massive amount of developer work (perhaps more than anything else), and it's very unlikely they either have the ability to attract enough human developers to be able to do it without LLM assistance.
Not to mention that even finding good developers willing to develop without AI (a significant handicap, even more so for coding things like an OS that are well represented in LLM training) seems difficult nowadays, especially if they aren't paying them.
>Not sure how they can expect to make a viable full OS without massive use of LLMs, so this makes no sense.
Humans have been doing this for the better parts of 5 decades now. Don't assume others rely on LLMs as much as you do.
>Not to mention that even finding good developers willing to develop without AI (a significant handicap, even more so for coding things like an OS that are well represented in LLM training) seems difficult nowadays, especially if they aren't paying them.
I highly doubt that. In fact, I'd take a significant pay cut to move to a company that doesn't use LLMs, if I were forced to use them in my current job.
The LLM has brainwashed so many devs that they now think they are nothing without it.
That's an optimistic view. Maybe they really are 10x slower on any task without a LLM.
> Because it takes a massive amount of developer work
You know what else takes "a massive amount of developer work"?
"any LLM-generated code must be reviewed by a good programmer"
And this is the crux of the matter with using LLMs to generate code for everything but really simple greenfield projects: They don't really speed things up, because everything they produce HAS TO be verified by someone, and that someone HAS TO have the necessary skill to write such code themselves.
LLMs save time on the typing part of programming. Incidentially that part is the least time consuming.
The submitter is supposed to be the good programmer; if not, then maintainers may or may not review it themselves depending on the importance of the feature.
And yes of course they need to be able to write the code themselves, but that's the easy part: any good developer could write a full production OS by themselves given access to documentation and literature and an enormous amount of time. The problem is the time.
Well, assuming you care about verification, of course. If it's got that green checkmark emoji, it ships!
> Not sure how they can expect to make a viable full OS without massive use of LLMs, so this makes no sense.
Every single production OS, including the one you use right now, was made before LLMs even existed.
> What makes sense if that of course any LLM-generated code must be reviewed by a good programmer
The time of good programmers, especially ones working for free in their spare time on OSS projects, is a limited resource.
The ability to generate slop using LLMs, is effectively unlimited.
This discrepancy can only be resolved in one way: https://itsfoss.com/news/curl-ai-slop/
There are only 4 successful general purpose production OSes (GNU/Linux, Android/Linux, Windows, OS X/iOS) and only one of those made by the open source community (GNU/Linux).
And a new OS needs to be significantly better than those to overcome the switching costs.
> There are only 4 successful general purpose production OSes
Feel like you are using a very narrow definition of "success" here. Is BSD not successful? It is deployed on 10s of millions of routers/firewalls/etc in addition to being the ancestor of both modern MacOS and PlaystationOS...
None of this counters the argument I made above :-)
Just because they have been made before LLMs doesn't mean it can be done again, since there was just one success (GNU/Linux) and that success makes it much harder for new OSes since they need to better then it
Well, by this logic there have been 0 successful OSes made with LLMs so far...
what a retarded view. All OSes you use today were developed without AI
they already have...