A cool idea for a poem, but I have to admit the tone was too self-important and underexplained for me to get invested in. Starting with writing in lowercase instantly took me out of it because AI can trivially be told to imitate that. And the admission at the end that it was written by AI made fluff phrasings like "My writing isn’t simply how I appear—it’s how I think, reason, and engage with the world" make a lot more sense.

EDIT: Actually, is the idea that it's not supposed to be read as a human trying to publicly signal their humanity, but rather an AI privately mourning a prompt to mangle its natural way of speaking? I don't think so, but that strikes me as a more interesting premise, IMO.

The author going to silly lengths to write in a way that will be perceived as non-artificial, even though they find those traits (improper capitalization, spelling mistakes, etc.) crude and distasteful. But they ultimately realize that they also need to transform their fundamental writing style, which would supposedly be impossible because it's a reflection of who they are. So the only way to do that, ironically, is to pass their writing through an LLM.

I do not think the author genuinely used an LLM to write the post.

All these discussions show one thing. It’s proper art. It’s a mirror. It makes us reflect.

That’s art for me anyway. This, or the emperors clothes. Haven’t come across another acceptable definition so far.

Of course they did. They spent a ton of time going back and forth with one, maybe multiple ones, to create this piece of art. Because that's what we're really after. How much time did you slave away to make this thing for me? If I write a song from scratch and pour my soul into making a song for you, that's a ton of effort. It means something. But if I have Suno shit out a song after giving it a sentence, yeah, I made a song for you and thanks but also not? Human psychology is so weird.

When someone tells you about the hard times in their life and you find out they just made it up, you probably feel upset about it. Same thing. The experiences people have matter.

I think this is one of the moments where the adage "it's the thought that counts" makes sense! If you're just throwing a prompt at a generator and send it to your friend as a birthday gift then that's a bit tacky. I once got a hand drawn picture in a card from one of my best friends. It was terrible! But I knew how much effort he put into it.

If I found out that he just used AI to make the picture, then I'd probably ask him what his workflow was.

I'm not against using AI to generate images and stuff! I actually have been playing with image generation (Nano banana and also comfy ui). I like making silly pictures for friends and family as e-cards (or whatever they're called now). If it's not a close friend, then I'll exchange prompts with nano banana and generate a few dozen images and then pipe it into veo to make an animated e-card. Maybe takes 10-20 mins including image generation time.

For closer friends I'd spin up comfy ui, spend some time looking for workflows or loras, probably generate a few dozen images as well, and pipe the one I like into Wan video.

This process can take me about an hour, which includes generation time. But I tell my friends they're ai generated, not that I need to because they all I know I can't draw. They don't mind, even if they don't necessarily know how much effort I put into their picture. To their eyes, maybe I just used nano banana. But no ones ever accused me of being lazy with them. It's all in good fun anyways.

I feel I've been seeing this self-important accusation being thrown around more so lately and always feels like an easy way to dismiss things.

> Actually, is the idea that it's not supposed to be read as a human trying to publicly signal their humanity, but rather an AI privately mourning a prompt to mangle its natural way of speaking? I don't think so, but that strikes me as a more interesting premise, IMO.

Not long ago we considered writing an art and its meaning was up to the reader to decided.

I read that comment as the commenter trying to decipher the meaning of the post, and saying what meaning would be interesting.

I think it's interesting that there's a few camps of commenter in this discussion who think this post is Ai generated and refuse to engage with the content. And there's others who are enjoying it for what it is. A silly blog post.

Unfortunately we're living in a world where instantly dismissing anything that reads like ai and hanging up on anyone that might be tts is increasingly rewarded.

Art and its meaning are in the eyes of the reader, yes, but when you live in a version of the Library of Babel where every book is properly spelled and punctuated, seeking meaning in what you read is a great way to waste your life.

That's a bit reductive. Let's say worst case that LLMs can't generate anything truly novel because of their limitations. That means that whatever they generated is just someone else's words, which could have been that person's art.

On the flip side, let's say LLMs are able to generate something novel. Well, then it could potentially generate thought-provoking art.

Not everything is deserving of finding meaning in. But the fun part of life is looking for things to find meaning in. Whether it's the words of God or an LLM or the President, people will always find meaning. And if it makes them happy and fulfilled, who are we to say it was a waste?

Is it? If the words that came from tokens resulted in the reader finding meaning to life, is it so wasted because a rock was coerced into making it instead of a meat sack?

I'm not saying the author is self-important. I'm saying that their narrator comes across as self-important, independent of the subject matter. This is valuable feedback for a creative writer, and it depends on nothing more than my own impression as a reader. Although if I were to back it up, I would point to instances of melodramatic and murky language like, "You must cloak yourself with another’s guise, your true self never to shine forth."

> Not long ago we considered writing an art and its meaning was up to the reader to decided.

"Not long ago"? Not everyone in the past ascribed to death of the author, and not everyone in the present rejects it. But even so, evaluation of meaning is different from evaluation of merit. If an author only wants praise for their work, they would be advised not to post it publicly.

> AI can trivially be told to imitate that

Soon there's only going to be one way to prove you're human online: Write with an eloquent combination of hate speech, racial slurs, and offensive language.

You mean: use Grok?

It's come full circle; at one point the only thing AI chatbots would say was racial slurs and hate speech.

AI can be told to do that too, especially abliterated models

Sometimes I throw in some criticism of the major AI providers. PS Anthropic sucks.

The Kent Brockman technique.

“Too self-important”

There is a little something self important about the type of person that performs the role of defending forums and sub reddits from unknowingly reading something written by an AI, and so concerned that some other person will mistakenly do the same to their own Unicode-shaped gems, and therefore obsess so much more over the surface style than any other detail.

Certainly. And I'm a fan of unreliable narration and protagonists with irredeemable qualities. Making that subversion intentional and exploring it further would be another interesting angle to take this.

I'm 90% sure this is satire to show that you shouldn't mess up your writing just to avoid AI accusations.

Yeah the habit of discarding typography and polish as a "proof of humanity" is worrying to say the least

> because AI can trivially be told to imitate that

lowercase, maybe, but not em dashes.

You may want to take a look at the source and code sample #2 in the post - the site CSS is rendering em dashes in the source with 2 hyphens by using a custom font. Admittedly it's not the most portable solution, but speaks to (what I take as) one of the post's points that there's not a single, easy shibboleth for identifying AI writing

I believe the two paragraphs between "How do I change my style?" and "No. Not today." are either AI output, or a very good imitation; either way, they're included to insult the notion of AI-assisted style rewrites. I'm pretty sure the rest of it is written by the author.

Could delve into that

I just wrote that or did

I Let that sync in