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londons_explore 6 hours ago  [ - ]

Remember that just typing 'John Smith DOB 1/1/1900' into a random webform and clicking submit to get in is technically wire fraud.

Sure, it usually won't be prosecuted... Until you upset the wrong person and they're looking for a crime you did...

fc417fc802 5 hours ago  [ - ]

I don't believe it's wire fraud unless you deceive the other party for monetary gain. I realize that's not quite the correct definition but AFAIK it's quite close to it.

londons_explore 5 hours ago  [ - ]

The gain is that you get to access the website. Fraud simply requires gain, not necessarily monetary benefit.

1970-01-01 4 hours ago  [ - ]

That's not it. There is 2 parts 2 fraud.

Part 1: misrepresentation of fact

Part 2: harm or loss due to that misrepresentation

You must prove both.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fraud/#:~:text=and%20upon%...

araes 4 hours ago  [ - ]

Fraud (Wikipedia, United States):

  - Misrepresents a material (non-trivial) fact in order to obtain action or forbearance by another person
  - The other person relies upon the misrepresentation
  - The other person *suffers injury* as a result of the act or forbearance taken in reliance upon the misrepresentation.
Damages in fraud cases is normally computed using

  - Recovery of damages in the amount of the *difference between the value of the property* had it been as represented and its actual value
  - Out-of-pocket loss, which allows for the recovery of damages in the amount of the *difference between the value of what was given and the value of what was received*.
Usually also heavily implied it needs to involve money in some significant way:

18 U.S.C. § 1343

  (...)'any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises'(...)
Fraud cases also usually heavily apply burden of court practice on the prosecution, to prove fraud and substantial losses. If you type 'John Smith DOB 1/1/1900' the "victim" has to prove it caused them to suffer injury and that there was a significant difference between the value of the property (non-trivial).
1970-01-01 6 hours ago  [ - ]

So is breaching all your PII into the universe. Choose your battles or they will be chosen for you. Aside, I'm technically 126 years old in some DBs. Nobody cares.