I learned chess when I was 5, and didnt have a chess computer in the first like 5 years and by then I have progressed quite far.. so i cannot really tell

Makes sense. I started learning how to play Chess when I was ~30 and my tutors were just chess engines, game reviews on chess.com and whatever books I found interesting enough to get through. I have fun, and that's all I'll ever have, no titles or anything. The centipawn stuff makes sense now, but it took a while.