"hey have lots of Model Ys in Austin as Robotaxis right now with no drivers"
They do not. They have a very small number of them open to a select number of people, not the general public. And they are limited to even smaller areas. You need to understand that Musk is NOT an engineer, he is more of a con man desperate to inflate tesla stock price. If he says self driving cars don't need LIDAR then they must actually need it.
https://futurism.com/future-society/polymarket-fortune-betti...
Polymarket user David Bensoussan has made $36,000 by betting against Musk's wildly optimistic self driving predictions.
linking to grokipedia feels like intentional rage-baiting.
Who should I believe a random poster on hackernews who has likely an average salary or Elon Musk who is the richest man in the world and create multiple trillion dollar companies......hard one!
Whats wrong with grokipedia its a bit less woke/far left wing, more balanced.
You are just mindlessly regurgitating the lies of Musk and using an "appeal to wealth" to justify not analyzing them. He has been lying about self driving since 2016.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2025/08/20/elon-mus...
https://futurism.com/leaked-elon-musk-self-driving
For nearly a decade Elon Musk has claimed Teslas can truly drive themselves. They can’t. Now California regulators, a Miami jury and a new class action suit are calling him on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autono...