> python in another realm here as well

uv has more of less solved this (thank god). Night and day difference from Pip (or any of the other attempts to fix it honestly).

At this point they should just deprecate Pip.

I have never experienced issues with pip, and I’m not sure it’s whether I’m doing something that pip directly supports and avoiding things it doesn’t help with.

I’d really love to understand why people get so mad about pip they end up writing a new tool to do more or less the same thing.

Ah yes let's all depend on some startup that will surely change the license at some point.

pip is really bad though so UV has a long ways to fall before you aren't still net better off :^)

Very clearly a better option than continuing to use Pip. Even if they do change the license in a few years I will definitely take several years of not being shat on by Pip over the comparatively minor inconvenience of having to switch to an open fork of uv when they rug-pull. If they ever do.

Continuing to use Pip because Astral might stop maintaining uv in future is stupidly masochistic.