Reacts added some poor abstractions over the last decade. Looking at you hooks and effects.

But its far from the worst.

It was the first framework to put together JSX, a functional way of defining components and simplifying state. This was a monumental improvement. As a result they earned mass adoption.

As a result its the framework that now has a community moat that is not going to crumble until someone else can break ground in the way they did.

Sure, some of these could be considered "better" but they're all better due to incremental improvements for Frontend Engineering.

None of which are substantial enough to unseat the king

> React is the literal worst of all the modern JavaScript frameworks and yet that's what everybody insists on using.

That's rather amusing. "Am I wrong? No it's the rest of the world!"

How are these other frameworks so far ahead? I've used a couple of frameworks and React has been the easiest from the big ones to wrap my head around.

I am a react developer. For past few months I am working in vue and I Just dont see any benefits

Totally agree.

It can be made better if you write it using non standard patterns - but the community is so dogmatic you'll get laughed out of the room.

All of my personal react projects use the MVC/MVVM architecture and are so much easier to work with

    export class AppViewModel {
      @rx accessor message = new TextField()
    }

    export function App() {
      const vm = useViewModel(AppViewModel)

      return <div>
        <p>{vm.message.value}</p>
        <input 
          onChange={vm.message.fromEvent} 
          value={vm.message.value} />
      <div>
    }

As a Svelte developer working with React at $DAYJOB I must say it is the most horrific kludge of terrible abstractions I’ve ever had to suffer through in my life. The sheer number of hoops you have to jump through to do literally anything is comically absurd, and even the nicest way of doing things is a dumpster fire of bad programming patterns. The worst part is, React devs are blind to just how much of their day is spent solving problems that are created solely by React itself, unrelated to any business logic or actual value.

One day my dream is to delete 75% of the code, sprinkle some svelte into the business logic, and be left with a strictly superior, more performant version of the platform.

I hear you my brother. Days i had to write react were the worst i had to endure

I hate React, but Vue never seemed much better. What is better about it, in your opinion?