I am glad to see that they’re backing off from discontinuing. I would really, really like it if they would let me buy it outright instead of subscribing.
I’ve mentioned this on here before, but I stand by it: developing Flash is the most fun way I have found to program.
Now, part of this is because Flash was one of the first things that I learned to program, so it’s probably a big rose-tinted because i was younger and it was new, but even as a thirty-something I still have had a blast playing with Flash MX Pro (legally acquired, of course).
Flash is so interesting to me, because it is animation first, but the programming was bolted on pretty elegantly. You could animate something using professional tools, highlight it, make it a movie clip, and immediately export it to code and hack against that. Yeah it was hard to maintain for big projects but it was fun how quickly 15 year old tombert could go from a few drawings to a simple game.
I miss it.
I miss flash too. No other development environment was/is as easy to use.
I learning to program with as2 and as3.
If you weren't aware previously, you'll be pleased to learn that you can still program in Flash if you really want to, and distribute your programs on the web. https://ruffle.rs
We need an open source equivalent to the Flash editor (AKA Adobe animate) that uses Ruffle and can output to it.
We have the web, we don't need ruffle, what we need is indeed a open source flash editor. Wick editor was quite close, by outputting standalone html files
https://www.wickeditor.com/
Of course, not at all on the same level like flash was, but some parts worked really nice.
Unfortunately it is abandoned. (I thought about taking it up, but would require lots of effort, basically rewriting core parts)
The web is awful as a programming environment. It's popular because it's everywhere, not because it's good.
Rather a warts-and-all open web than a pay-to-play walled garden where you have to pay the feudal lord a tax for sharecropping on their land.
there are alternatives both in the past (perpetual software) and hopefully in the future
I think they mean you don't need ruffle if you can just export to web. The programming environment can be anything, but adding ruffle in the middle when it really doesn't need to be there, does indeed feel a bit tacky. Flash used to be necessary to add functions to browsers that were otherwise impossible, but these days you can do anything in a browser.
The base feature set of a tool like Flash has been stable for well over a decade (maybe even two) now; why has no one spun up some agents and released an open source clone of Flash that runs on all major platforms for everyone to enjoy without giving any money to Adobe?
You know what? This seems like as good an excuse as any to try out the new Codex release. I'm going to try and see if I can clone it in Rust.
Has anyone tried to clone that experience in more modern tooling? It's something that everyone speaks fondly of, and was very successful as a creative tool.
https://rive.app
I thought that is only for animation, but can you also script everything like in flash?
(Btw in Flash, even the whole UI of the editor was scriptable, every action visible as a script command)
Yes, Rive launched scripting last year
For drawing at least there is:
https://www.wickeditor.com/#/
https://ruffle.rs/compatibility
I know but I was talking about the editor itself, not the resulting applications.