"AI slop" is an internet meme that bears a strking resemblance to another, older meme, "goyslop"; why is it such a stretch to believe the former derived from the latter? "AI slop" was being used on 4chan as far back as November, 2022 on /g/:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89758234/#q89758967
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89911387/#q89931883
It also saw its first use that month on /pol/, though I won't link to the archived threads (for obvious reasons). Unless you can provide earlier prior art, the most likely etymology of the term is 4chan, November, 2022, derived from "goyslop."
Because we’ve fed slop to pigs since the 1600s? It’s a commonly known word with a clearly understood meaning. It didn’t come from or is a shortening of goyslop, you’re just flat out wrong.
Right.. but it’s WOTY in 2025 not 1600. The reason this word and many others (including doomer, neckbeard, zoomer, etc) are popular can easily be traced back to 4chan.
There’s a book called“Algospeak” by Adam Alekaik specifically talks about how internet slang terms often originate from radicalized communities like 4chan and slowly filter into the mainstream while losing their original political meaning. Goyslop-> AI slop is a textbook example of this.
Where's the evidence that "AI slop" actually originates from "goyslop", though? Just because one predates the other and both contain the same root word? It's equally if not more likely that both terms were derived independently. Like I said, "slop" is a word in common usage that precisely matches the usage of both terms: something bland, low-quality, and high-quantity.
The way “slop” is used here is very specific. It implies a power dynamic between the slop producer and consumer where the consumer is viewed as cattle, and the producer feeds the cheapest possible product.
GP cities specific examples of this usage on 4chan in 2022 which is proof until someone can find a counter example.
Yeah, there is a power dynamic where the consumer is viewed as cattle, because the origin of the word is literal cattle lol.
> When Mr. Zuckerman reached the pigpen, he climbed over the fence and poured the slops into the trough.
Are you now willing to accept my 'proof' that 4chan actually derived specifically from Charlotte's Web?
I'm not sure that connotation is all that present in the way it's commonly used, but I'll grant it. However, like the other person you responded to has said, "slop" already had that meaning, because it is the low-grade cattle feed. So If both "AI slop" and "goyslop" carry these shades of meaning, it would not suggest one descends from the other, but that both descend directly from "slop".
That's maybe true, but "goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok. Then shortly after people started calling tiktok "slop" and ai tiktok "ai slop".
I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan.
>"goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok
That doesn't sound very specific, that sounds quite broad. Looking around posts up to 2023 I can see the word used for just about anything, including HDMI and Disney. Honestly, this says to me it's just used as synonymous with "slop" in the broad sense, with no added meaning.
>I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan.
There's no zero relation. The relation between the two terms is just not parent-child, but fraternal. Both simply inherit their meaning from "slop". "Slop" already has connotations of cheapness, low quality, high quantity, and cattle feed, and is a word that has existed since Old English. There's literally no reason to "AI slop" is descended from "goyslop". At best someone heard the latter and by analogy coined the former, but given that "goyslop" had already been coined by simply prepending a modifier to "slop", there's not even any need for that explanation.
This while thread is wild.
Slop has always been a bulk shitty thing.
Nah... I've heard the term slop used all my lifetime. Very common word, as is "sloppy". In fact, I'd connect it with sloppy in the sense of poor workmanship.
Okay. If "slop" is a shortened form of "goyslop", then what's the etymology of "goyslop"? Is it just a wholly novel sequence of unrelated letters?
Goy is the Hebrew for a Gentile (or a nation). However, while goyslop is an earlier coinage I certainly do not link it to AI-slop, but more to "sloppy".
"Goyslop" and "sloppy" are both derived from "slop". "Goyslop" meaning "slop of the goy variety" (equivalently to "AI slop"), and "sloppy" meaning "having the qualities of slop".
I was already aware of the term "goyslop" but I see it as a parallel development rather than the origin. I heard daytime TV programming being referred to as slop over twenty years ago. I don't think there are any antisemitic undertones for the word outwith the "goyslop" coinage.
Same source shows 'slop' alone being used as far back as 2008: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/slop/order/asc/ Some of these uses are the verb form, but most are the noun form, being used in pretty much the same sense it has been used for generations, and is in use today.