Having the options between internet controlled by the USA and internet controlled by China is almost certainly better than only having one of those two options. Competition keeps any of the two from degrading service too much, and if you are ideologically or politically unaligned with one chances are you are at least somewhat aligned with the other
> In light of Iran's mullah regime internet shutdown being completely bypassed by starlink portable units
Completely bypassed? Only very few people in Iran have Starlink dishes. Yes, some video material makes it out of Iran, but it's like a few dozen videos and journalists interviewing local sources despite the whole country protesting.
I wish them all the best and hopefully the mullahs finally get the boot - but Starlink is not a panacea for protests.
> Only very few people in Iran have Starlink dishes.
Couple of sources I read talk about 40k+ dishes in Iran
Granted, that's not much at the scale of a country of 90M+ people, but still, if the numbers are correct, that's not nothing and that's why we're getting videos of the riots outside of Iran.
The sad thing is Starlink dishes (mobile or even worse, fixed) are super easy to radio-triangulate and are quickly being taken down.
[EDIT]: and the mullahs have just officially announced that anyone caught using one will be jailed (which was obvious, but not yet official).
They're only easy to triangulate from above. They're highly directional. I'd say in Tehran that would be a major issue but out in the desert it's unlikely someone is watching.
I mean they're the ones that randomly brought up "their" thugs, maybe deal with you own thugs before immediately worrying about everyone else's? You could just say "the ruling class" or some other catch-all
Currently it is controlled by thugs in the USA. Same difference?
> Currently it is controlled by thugs in the USA. Same difference?
I hate to make such a prosaic answer, but, independent of there being thugs in the USA or not ... two wrongs don't make a right.
Having the options between internet controlled by the USA and internet controlled by China is almost certainly better than only having one of those two options. Competition keeps any of the two from degrading service too much, and if you are ideologically or politically unaligned with one chances are you are at least somewhat aligned with the other
So go fix your wrongs, make the world better. Until then it is just pot calling kettle black
It’s Elon though, that’s worth atleast several wrongs.
> In light of Iran's mullah regime internet shutdown being completely bypassed by starlink portable units
Completely bypassed? Only very few people in Iran have Starlink dishes. Yes, some video material makes it out of Iran, but it's like a few dozen videos and journalists interviewing local sources despite the whole country protesting.
I wish them all the best and hopefully the mullahs finally get the boot - but Starlink is not a panacea for protests.
> Only very few people in Iran have Starlink dishes.
Couple of sources I read talk about 40k+ dishes in Iran
Granted, that's not much at the scale of a country of 90M+ people, but still, if the numbers are correct, that's not nothing and that's why we're getting videos of the riots outside of Iran.
The sad thing is Starlink dishes (mobile or even worse, fixed) are super easy to radio-triangulate and are quickly being taken down.
[EDIT]: and the mullahs have just officially announced that anyone caught using one will be jailed (which was obvious, but not yet official).
They're only easy to triangulate from above. They're highly directional. I'd say in Tehran that would be a major issue but out in the desert it's unlikely someone is watching.
Weird jingoist tone... Sort sounds like you think their ruling class are thugs but ours are fine?
Would you prefer an internationally run mega-constellation for rural internet access? I certainly would!
> Sort sounds like you think their ruling class are thugs but ours are fine?
I see Whataboutism on the menu today.
I mean they're the ones that randomly brought up "their" thugs, maybe deal with you own thugs before immediately worrying about everyone else's? You could just say "the ruling class" or some other catch-all
And hypocrites at the table.
Ah yes, competing with the U.S. makes them thugs. Right.
> Ah yes, competing with the U.S. makes them thugs. Right.
So the great firewall is just a myth ?
Because if it isn't, then ... thugs sounds about right to me.