Eh.. this does not contradict the previous point? Unless we can see the backend code and do some comparison with a reference implementation, it does not disprove "far more difficult to express". "can be done with htmx" != "easy/easier to do with htmx"

True, but it is not my code to that with. so... If I ever open source one of my backends I will try and remember to flag it in a reply here.