> I am deeply baffled by this kind of response.

No you're not. You're just trying to respond with something witty.

It's a message board with 1% of the functionality most sites people are building with frameworks.

> Firstly, because this site happily handles the amount of traffic that puts many hobbyist sites that happen to get on its front page into a hug of death;

Lol are you really implying it's hard to scale a message board?

> One does not need a super popular front-end framework to make an awesome web product, and the HackerNews site is a testament to that.

IT'S A MESSAGE BOARD. Nobody is building message boards anymore. Using HN as an example for anything other than building a dirt simple message boardsays more about your refusal to recognize the need to these new technologies than it does about those technologies.

> awesome web product

A. Message. Board.

> Lol are you really implying it's hard to scale a message board?

I am implying that it is beyond the "3 pages from W3Schools", as you put it.

> A. Message. Board.

Yes. A fast, reliable, accessible message board that I and many others thoroughly enjoy. An awesome product.

Again, I have never suggested that its ui is complex. In fact, it's glorious how simple it is. This is the point that those htmx people make: use simple tools for simple UIs; and also, try to make your UIs simple.

> this site is amazing!

NO. IT. ISN'T.

lol. Anytime React is mentioned people like you rush in to tell others just how great stuff like...checks notes...a message board is. As if it in any, way, shape or form adds to the conversation.

You just couldn['t help yourself from rushing in to defend the simplest site on the planet (lol written in LISP) as if it demonstrates anything other than some rando building a w3 schools site in a language no one uses anymore.

> rushing in to defend the simplest site on the planet

This 'simplest site on the planet' does the job that it is tasked to do. Brilliantly. I am baffled by why you would scorn at simplicity.

> as if it demonstrates anything

It demonstrates that a great product (a product that many people use and love) can be built with simple tools. At least on the frontend.