>If this is what stops Firefox from drowning
By having the most engaged users leave and splinter the community furtehr in hopes that Mozilla out competes the trillion dollar monopoly in a war of data centers? We really will do anything except message your policy makers, huh?
I migrated several times before and am browsing around now. Id even be so bold to say that Mozilla dying will not kill the Quantum web engine scene, so I have no allegiance to rooting for yet another billion dollar corporation that has continually proven that their customers are not their interest. But I don't think "no one cares about you, just leave" is the healthiest option for your stated goals.
>Can we make sure we're fighting the right battles?
This isn't an argument, this is my statement. I don't want my tools to be bloated.
If the entire idea of a web browser collapses overnight, I'll make due. But the last thing I'll be accused of is remaining silent and having this industry bewildered on how this apocalypse came upon them. They got feedback and ignored it, stopped competing on merits over trends, and lost sight of what people actually want. That's their choice, and they will reap what they sow.
Seriously, I don't get the problem. As far as I'm aware the only things that are opt-out are the smart tabs. Which is a 22.6MB and 57MB vector embedding models that can be easily removed.
So what bloat?
They said everything will be opt-in and that's cool with me. If they go back on that then yeah, grab the fucking pitchforks and I'll be right there with you because fuck those lying bastards. But so far they haven't done that so put the pitchfork down. All you're doing is being over zealous and attacking the greater enemy's (Chrome) enemy. You don't have to call Firefox your ally but it's pretty clear that Chrome is significantly more misaligned with your wants than Firefox is. So stop attacking the best thing we got right now.
I'm pretty confident this is happening because all the privacy maximalists are not actually privacy maximalists and would rather lick the fucking boot than take a knight who's armor isn't pure. Doesn't matter if that boot is orange and shaped like a lion, it's still the boot.I'm sorry the choices are slim. I really do wish it was better. But we're never going to get there if we kill the last thing standing against the monopoly. So yeah, pick the right fucking battle.
>I bet you're grateful for that person too even if you don't know it.
I'm grateful for actions, not words. I don't see much action here.
>Seriously, I don't get the problem.
Easy to be blind when you choose not to see. I don't have much to add to neither the llm nor Mozilla debate. We have plenty of literature on the issues with both.
You're not paying attention
Or
The lack of perfection, and existence of opposition, blinds you to such action.
It isn't words I expect you you be grateful for, it's actions.
While it's far from perfect and far from where I'd personally like things to be, there is progress being made on the privacy and digital rights fronts. We've won the right to repair. We've struck down strong efforts to kill net neutrality. Several states have stronger data rights for their citizens[0]! And we've done much more! It's an uphill battle but that doesn't mean it's one we're losing!
You're right!But I'm not the one making everything black and white. It's good to strive for perfection, but if you're waiting till it's achieved then you'll be waiting for eternity.
Worse, if you're hyper critical at progress towards the world we want then we'll never get there. If you complain when a company does wrong and when a company makes a step in the right direction that's not big enough then why should they ever listen to you? All you've told them is that there's nothing they can do that will make you[1] happy. So why should they listen? Why should they even try?
You play a dangerous game. One we already know how it plays out...
[0] https://iapp.org/resources/article/us-state-privacy-legislat...
[1] and everyone else like you that is not 100% aligned in your wants. No company can make all of you perfectly happy at the same time because you are not identical people.