ACR needs to die. It’s an absurd abuse of the privileged position that a TV has - a gross violation of privacy just to make a few bucks. It should be absolutely nobody’s business to know what you watch except your own; the motivation behind the VPPA was to kill exactly this type of abuse.
The greatest irony is that HDCP goes to great lengths to try and prevent people from screenshotting copyrighted content, and here we have the smart TVs at the end just scraping the content willy-nilly. If someone manages to figure out how to use ACR to break DRM, maybe the MPAA will be motivated to kill ACR :)
ACR — Automatic Content Recognition: tech in some smart TVs/apps that identifies what’s on-screen (often via audio/video “fingerprints”) and can report viewing data back to vendors/partners.
VPPA — Video Privacy Protection Act: a U.S. law aimed at limiting disclosure of people’s video-viewing/rental history.
HDCP — High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection: an anti-copy protocol used on HDMI/DisplayPort links to prevent interception/recording of protected video.
DRM — Digital Rights Management: a broad term for technical restrictions controlling how digital media can be accessed, copied, or shared.
MPAA — Motion Picture Association of America: the former name of the main U.S. film-industry trade group (now typically called the MPA, Motion Picture Association).
TV / TVs — Television(s).
Appreciate this breakdown
U.S. — United States (of America)
Thank you
Enormous effort goes into stopping users from capturing a single frame, while manufacturers quietly sample the screen multiple times a second by design
Next stop: auto manufacturers and location data.
The ship has sailed on that one. The telematics from the car can also be sent back to the mothership, i.e. if you’re driving like a lunatic, pulling donuts, harsh acceleration and so on.
Which is even more absurd. You can watch illegal things on TV too. Both are a gross breach of monopolistic power.
you can directly hurt more people with a car than a TV though
A car phoning your analytics home is not an immediate preventative measure though. It’s a grotesque overstep.
On flip side not having telematics on your most expensive assets (house, car and health) is negligence.
‘Telematics’ is not how the word ‘insurance’ is spelled. Anyone that owns an uninsured car or home that cannot afford to replace a total loss or hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills in the case of a major accident is negligent. Anyone without wealth lacking health insurance is negligent.
Having sensor logs of the space temp and CO2 ppm in your house when it’s burning down isn’t going to help you at all.
Car telemetry might help diagnose car issues, but I’m not aware of manufacturers using it that way, I’ve heard plenty about selling location data and driving habits.
Constantly monitoring your heart rate and blood pressure sounds like a good way to develop hypochondria.
Majority of population is wearing some sort of smartwatch tho.
Absence of PM2.5 is exactly how I debunked a false smoke alarm while I was overseas. Or I flagged excessive power use after friends left appliance on while I was away. Or water leak sensors flagged one toiled cistern dripping.
There’s a difference between the owner having telemetry on their own car, and the manufacturer having telemetry on the cars they’ve sold. One is taking care of your assets, and the other is spying on customers.
Tell me, how does Tesla spy on customers? Do pass mcdonalds more often when on FSD?
Have they resolved the class-action lawsuit about workers sharing and making memes from pictures and videos of people inside their homes, garages, naked, with their pets, their kids, their laundry, their sex toys, etc? Mozilla said they're the least bad but they're definitely not good.
Not spying, part of classifying FSD footage that you opt-in to share.
Not nice, but kinda healthy team culture to share hilarious accidents. Happens everyday, everywhere.
It's not just FSD footage. Footage was recorded while the cars were charging. From Reuters:
As an example, this person recalled seeing “embarrassing objects,” such as “certain pieces of laundry, certain sexual wellness items … and just private scenes of life that we really were privy to because the car was charging.”
To be clear, looking at video surreptitiously recorded inside peoples' homes is absolutely spying. And saying you get actual consent from click-through "opt-in" forms which opting out would kill huge swaths of their car's functionality, and not deliberately and loudly informing them of how invasive the videos were is frankly, ridiculous. Those forms are obviously pretext for tech companies to do things with people's data that they'd never consent to if they really understood the implications.
Spying is actively seeking for certain information. Comparing this to sharing with your colleagues some useless images for lulz is disingenuous.
Go read the dictionary entry for spying. You can’t just make up definitions for words.
Are you saying that not monitoring e.g. heart rate constantly through some electronic device that sends the data somewhere (let’s assume somewhere under my control) is negligence?
Going to doctors office is telemetry too, but very sparse. Smart watches are ubiquitous. Lives have been saved.
From Wikipedia: “Telemetry is the in situ collection of measurements or other data at remote points and their automatic transmission to receiving equipment (telecommunication) for monitoring.”
There is nothing “tele” about going to the doctor, and nothing automatic about the information they gather. You’re conflating telemetry and simple examination or observation. Most types of examination are not telemetry, and many types of telemetry are not as benign as simple observation/examination. There is telemetry on my car but I can’t access the data. It’s not for my benefit— it’s for Jeep’s benefit. I don’t need it and I don’t want it.
Laws can change, but I’m not hopeful, tbh. Digital privacy problems are just too abstract to viscerally anger most people. That may change as people that grew up in surveillance capitalism mature, but being so used to invasive data grabs might replace ignorant complacency with aware complacency.
It's faar worse. Automotive manufacturers and live IP camera feed. (See also tesla motors)
Yeah. At least you can opt out of flock. Definitely can’t opt out of ring.
Tesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla
Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.
Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
Maybe? But good luck proving it.
Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth....
For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
Source?
Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.
I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".
Source for your lies?
They're probably referring to this 2023 Reuters article.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...
"...pictures of dogs and funny road signs that employees made into memes by embellishing them with amusing captions or commentary, before posting them in private group chats. While some postings were only shared between two employees, others could be seen by scores of them, according to several ex-employees."
Two-second Google search. It's not very charitable to accuse someone of lying without even looking. It's even mentioned in that mozilla breakdown.
The way op worded seems they shared it publicly. You say they internally shared pics of dogs and signs..? Are you serious?
> I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes.
Your baseless assumptions are your own fault.
I gave citations for your specific questions. There’s multiple articles about the odious things that happened that you clearly have no interest in acknowledging. I’m not your research assistant. Go read them. You’re clearly more interested in defending Tesla than understanding people’s complaints. Cope? Shill? I’ll never know, and I’ll definitely never care.
Gotcha bitch. Account created 2022. Comments heavy in em dashes. Who you botting for?
lol, cringe. Great way to protect your ego when someone is serially pointing out how baseless your glib snapbacks are. I use em dashes because I learned to write at a competent university, instead of, say, Breaking Bad. In fact, it played a large role in early LLM development, so if they ever used student writing in their data sets, I might be a tiny part of the reason these models use so many em dashed to begin with. Hell, I don’t even use grammarly anymore. And I made this alt when I switched from dev to design, before the shitty job market switched me from design to manufacturing. And exactly who would I be “botting for?” The only person in this thread that started championing a particular company is you. The thread itself started with me bemoaning data collection among the auto industry, and mentioned that Tesla is the least bad at even if they’re still bad. So… am I botting for “big bicycle?” Part of the large Schwinn-backed anti-car virtual astroturfing brigade? Maybe an extremely aggressive public transit advocacy group? Exactly who cares enough about people stanning Tesla to point some robot propaganda machination at it? And since you were enough of a creep to go through my comment history looking for excuses to ignore what I was saying rather than actually engage with it, did you see ANY other indication that was a theme? Lol. So keep trying to scrounge up some cope, “bitch.”
You've been following my comments for a while, especially trying to dunk on Tesla with falsehoods and lies. Argue with Mozilla about their results, not me.
I’ve provided citations. You were commenting in a thread that branched off of my comment. I got my criticism from the Mozilla article, and most of my citations were linked to in the Mozilla article. I’d say you should actually read the subsection on Tesla, but you clearly can’t accept reality and have some weird Tesla obsession. Get help.
Tesla is not the least bad. Do you have that footage sitting in your car SD card or in cloud without access? Tesla is middle, if not worse
Argue with Mozilla on this. It's their list.
Next stop google analytics.
This is an excellent idea.
another POV is, stop using a TV