> "I'm not a fucking saint"
You're not a fucking person, this is LLM output.
It starts with the overdone sweary thing then mentions it's overdone and says it's not gonna do it, and it's almost enough to make me think the article is going to offer someone's point of view. But once again the LLM has erased any point of view the author may have had going in (or prevented them from developing it) and replaced it with a mediocre infodump.
I think this is the 5th slop I've seen atop HN in 24 hours.
> This site made by me, with tongue firmly in cheek.
Well, the LLM ruined it, and you didn't even tell us it participated.
Do you have evidence, or is it mostly vibes?
EDIT: Decided to dig up the source: https://github.com/algal/pleasejusttryhtmx/commits?author=al...
Looks like the initial commit might well have been generated, and then the document touched up in several following commits.
But there's clearly a person behind it: algal.
There's a person behind all of these bad posts that are making it here. What I've said is that their perspective has been erased by the garbage the LLM put together from whatever inputs they gave it. OK - OK - I did say "you're not a real person" which is maybe what you're responding to here; I did not mean algal is not a real person, I meant algal didn't write the line I was quoting.
But yes, it's "vibes" - although extremely obvious IMO. Extreme usage of headings for paragraphs, which are often just a bullet list or a string of short marketing-speak fluff statements.
That's all aesthetic though and not the offensive part, it's just what makes it obvious. The offensive part is you can read the whole thing and come away with little more than the title. The author's perspective and voice is lost, beyond "they want you to try htmx" I can't tell what they care about or why, I can't tell what it is they were excited to try to convey.
Btw they did just add this to the footer.
> Does this all sound a bit like shallow slop? Yup, please help make it better.
Yeah, I saw that, but when I went back and looked at the content, there are sentence fragments that seem atypical, although there are a fair number of em-dashes. I guess it wasn't as obvious to me, and I felt your original comment was harsh. But perhaps justified.
I noticed the footer, too, and was a bit disappointed. Live and learn!
I appreciate the discussion that this post sparked. But it is so lame that something like this is LLM generated. It's a perfect setup for some fun creative writing, what is the need to pour slop all over it??
Also the lack of comments calling out the obvious AI style is confusing to me. HN usually jumps on this stuff. Are we just getting tired of calling it out? Or have we just accepted that we're going to read slop sometimes? Or I guess the opportunity to talk about HTMX was probably more important than the post content
My theory is that a lot of people skim articles and then go to comments, or even just skip to comments once there are a few, and that these are "good enough" when skimming to produce a jumping off point for some commentary.
But now that it's very easy to produce articles that pass that test but don't have much value beyond that, we're seeing a lot of low quality stuff make it.
I don't think this is straight LLM, it's probably an homage to a line of websites like https://thebestmotherfucking.website
For sure the author had an idea and went to the LLM to produce the post. And I'm aware of those prior sites (some of which are linked at the bottom.)
I mean nothing is straight LLM, you must prompt them and people are putting their ideas in and linking to other sources and getting stuff like this out. And hopefully editing or iterating, but not enough it would seem most of the time.
I'm saying their perspective doesn't shine through the crap and I'm sick of reading mediocre infodumps from LLMs.
I get it. Sorry if I wasted your time.
Hey, thanks for adding a link* to a making-of video at the end of the post. Your perspective shines through when you explain the motivation in that first half, and my complaint is really that leaning on LLM writing makes this hard or impossible to see.
The second half of the video is great too, I love seeing the actual prompts that go into the LLM.
And I don't think you wasted my time, I'm sorry if "you're not a person" came off directed at you, when my complaint is really that I couldn't find you through all the tokens. I'm glad the video remedied that.
* https://youtu.be/2P0CZPZzoZg