I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged (but love what he has built). Honestly, either would have been great choices.
More opensource projects should move off GitHub. I moved off it myself.
I am getting fatigued by all of these. I am learning about a new one each time. We have
They all seem to do roughly the same things, but with a different web UI. Competition is great! Especially in response to a big corp that has market share. But... there was value in the centralization of GH.there is value in interoperability, not in centralization
> They all seem to do roughly the same things
Codeberg (Forgejo) is Free software, GitHub isn't. Not everything is about the software features.
I’m pretty sure Drew has stepped away from SourceHut. It’s kind of a bummer SourceHut stuck so stubbornly to mailing list only workflows. Everything else about the platform is great.
Drew is still working on SourceHut:
https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-11-20-whats-cooking-q4-2025/
Thanks. My information was outdated.
I believe Drew was taking a "break" from it, but not stepping away in any permanent sense. It's probably better for him to stay involved. I'd like to see him push his idea further. It's great to have options.
I’m glad they have robust support for email based patching but it’s a hard sell for people getting in to the platform.
I agree that there is a steep learning curve compared to Github pull requests or Gitlab merge requests, but like many things the steep learning curve actually hides a very powerful tool. A famous example is the Linux Kernel, a project of such a size that simply can not work with the Github/Gitlab model.
I would use the word "exception" rather than "example".
I doubt the next generation of programmers will have any idea what it means to contribute code "by mailing list".
> I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged
What's this about?
Maybe the incident:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782
https://dmpwn.info/
Should have made some popcorn before clicking the link.
The drama in the open source community is no less fun than YouTubers or celebrities.
Great way to begin Thanksgiving.
I'm confused, the incident is that he wrote a document detailing repeated bad behaviour from a well known community figure? And this is a bad thing?
And that second link is really grasping at straws lol
He apparently pretended to not have written it despite its DNS pointing to his servers, and Certificate Transparency logs and Internet Archive all attributing the page to his domain. Compare the top comment thread in the first link above to his reply there:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838124
I generally like Sourcehut and Drew's writing but I just learned about this and I find it disappointing.
Which part of the second link? Some of it is very accurately sourced, he 100% operates a loli bot which targetted subreddits banned by reddit for illegal content. Theres no walking around that. Near the end they also point out that Drew changes his TOS for SourceHut to align with banning projects he disagrees with, which makes GitHub look like paradise.
> the incident is that he wrote a document detailing repeated bad behaviour from a well known community figure? And this is a bad thing?
He collected all Stallman statements about Epstein and related subjects (this is perfectly ok) and then wrote his own summaries which completely misrepresent the things which were actually said. So what happened was that a lot of people just skimmed the summaries and concluded that Stallman molests children, or says that it's ok to do so etc etc.
If fact I have taken to link the Stallman report and add "don't read the summaries, read only the things that Stallman actually said". This only works if I believe the person is in good faith, of course. I would suggest the same to you.
> dmpwn
Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault, and implying things of ownership through their own created fake accounts and smearing campaigns. Pretty much all allegations on that page are circumstantial evidence, especially the bot ownership parts that sircmpwn even took down while citing those bigots using it to scrape child porn.
And then the dude of dmpwn posting things on image boards with the tag dmpwn, and forgetting to remove that from screenshots? lol, really?
Having experienced the same kind of doxxing attempts by 4chan bigots, /pol/ and kiwifarms, I think I am qualified to comment on how they operate.
Maybe someone needs to summon the Antichrist a second time to thin out the herd, huh?
> Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault
No need, Drew does a good job himself.
Holy shit this escalates completely. I had no idea any of this was going.
Is sr.ht tainted now or still a decent place to host code? I can't quite tell.
He's a bit unhinged, but for what it's worth every interaction I've had with him has been positive.
It's a defamation campaign done by 4chan bigots. See my sibling comment.
Thanks for mentioning it! Makes me glad to live a life out of the spotlight and to be generally ignorant of stuff like this going on. Would not want to be targeted like that :/
> Is sr.ht tainted now
I hate that this is now a thing you can ask unsarcastically.
Just use the tool you like the best man, screw what other people think. Yes, there's people who will go "you're bad because your use a tool that's made by a guy who said something wrong about Stallman" (or whatever he did exactly again). These people are not worth your attention.
My bad, I shouldn't have said tainted. Trustworthy is what I had in mind.
I moved my private repos to sr.ht ages ago because it was the open source, free software, ethical, longevitable approach. And stepping away from the mega corporations and everything going on with those.
I was wondering whether this was still the case.
Anyone who has read Drew de vault's blog for some time reaches the same conclusion it seems.
DeVault's controversial takes are pretty similar to the ones that Kelley expresses in this post, so I don't see much misalignment here.
Biggest problem of SourceHut that should be solved first before mass migration of open source - lack of the organizations that would allow multiple contributors working on the project, especially the project with multiple repositories.