> You can choose to use it (macros) or not.

Yet both examples use macros.

I might still got ptsd from a job where literally all of the rust codebase was written as macros. Since then I avoid them at all costs.

I find the route, that gleam took, way more elegant with squirrel (sqlx-ish) and lustre (elm-like) being examples of what we could have instead. Avoiding language mixing is so important for proper/clean lsp-support - yet macros are a different language as i see it.

As for the rest of this: i also don't see how it's any different from iced, egui etc. but maybe I didn't take the time to check the details...