What about people using an LLM as their web client? Are you now saying the website owner should be able to dictate what client I use and how it must behave?
What about people using an LLM as their web client? Are you now saying the website owner should be able to dictate what client I use and how it must behave?
> Are you now saying the website owner should be able to dictate what client I use and how it must behave?
Already pretty well established with Ad-block actually. It's a pretty similar case even. AI's don't click ads, so why should we accept their traffic? If it's un-proportionally loading the server without contributing to the funding of the site, get blocked.
The server can set whatever rules it wants. If the maintainer hates google and wants to block all chrome users, it can do so.
That was kind of what I was really hinting at, as the HN community tends to embrace things like ad blockers and archive links on stories, but god forbid someone read a site using an LLM.
I use adblock myself, and don't feel bad for using it (it's a security and privacy tool). But i don't blame websites that kick me out for it; hosting costs money.
Server owners should have all the right to set the terms of their server access. Better tools to control LLMs and scrapers are all good in my book.
I really wish ad platforms were better at managing malware, trackers and fraud through. It is rather difficult to fully argue for website owner authority with how bad ads actually are for the user.
Humans are usually hypocritical. They support whatever they personally use while opposing whatever inconveniences them, even though they're basically the same thing.
This whole thing has made me hate humans, so so much. Robots are much better.
Yes? I'd suggest that you understand that's not an unreasonable expectation either.
Your browser has a bug, if you leave my webpage open in a tab, because of that bug, it's going to close the connection, reconnect, new tls handshake and everything and re-request that page without any cache tag, every second, everyday, for as long as you have the tab open.
That feels kinda problematic, right?
Web servers block well formed clients all the time, and I agree with you, that's dumb. But servers should be allowed to serve only the traffic they wish. If you want to use some LLM client, but the way that client behaves puts undue strain on wy server, what should I do, just accept that your client, and by proxy you, are an asshole and just accept that?
You shouldn't put your rules on my webserver, exactly as much I my webserver shouldn't put my rules on yours. But i believe that ethically, we should both attempt to respect and follow the rules of the other. Blocking traffic when it starts to behave abusively. It's not complex, just try to be nice and help the other as much as you reasonably can.