> Microsoft said that using Azure in this way violated its terms of service and it was “not in the business of facilitating the mass surveillance of civilians”. Under the terms of the Nimbus deal, Google and Amazon are prohibited from taking such action as it would “discriminate” against the Israeli government. Doing so would incur financial penalties for the companies, as well as legal action for breach of contract.

Insane. Obeying the law or ToS, apparently, is discriminatory when it comes to Israel.

U.S. law. It's pretty obvious that neither Amazon nor Google are good options for serious actors that are not the U.S. government. So if they want to make business outside the U.S., they need to dance around the fact that in the end they bow to the will of Washington.

It's not insane, at least based on the information in the article, which is entirely insinuation. Do we actually have access to the leaked documents and what specifically was being asked besides a "secret code" being used?

It would be suicide to sign the contract. It basically allows them to hack their platforms without any repercussions or ability to stop it. They would quickly claim expanded access is part of the contract.

This endless bowing down to Israel is and always will be ridiculous. When a country can do whatever they like unchallenged, no matter how wrong, or how illegal, we have failed as a society.

That now makes two of U.S.

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It's always this same lame rhetoric every single goddamn time.

The genocide they have conducted? The war crimes? The fact they have broken international law?

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Because they overplayed their hand and they know it, so the only thing left to do is go all in and hope the walls they built hold long enough for this to be a fait accompli.

Because Israel have gone too far at this point and war crimes aren't justifiable.

You're trying to logically reason people out of a position they didn't reach logically. You'll fail because your target isn't truth-seeking.

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while the comment you reply to is borderline insane,

you're taking from a very privileged position in terms of media consumption. the media that criticizes the genocide and the blackflag on oct 7th is very niche and you seem to consume it exclusively. the message is very different within mass media.

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I doubt the Guardian has any reason to lie about the documents they have seen. Based on the interactions regarding their war crimes, are you arguing Israel have not basically declared themselves above the law in many ways?

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it doesn't matter what it does, why it's there, or how often it's used because: 1) skirts the law, 2) infringes on the laws of other countries, and finally 3) it's just so dodgy you have to be asking yourself wtf is going on.

How can an independent state "infringe on the laws of other countries"? If you think Israel is somehow bound by foreign states' laws, should it also be enforcing the Great Firewall, for example?

And how is it dodgy to want to know who spies on your data?

> How can an independent state "infringe on the laws of other countries"?

you don't live on earth, do you?

It is Israel's method introduced so that when Google and Microsoft who are legally required to pass over stored data based on where their servers are based, to find out who asked for it. I assume in the goal of trying to influence who asked for it.

Did you not read the article?

So Microsoft is nowadays the American "do no evil" tech giant. How the times have changed!