> curious about which countries do you associate with privacy

Estonia, Iceland, Switzerland, the Nordic countries and America.

America? The one with all the spying, NSA, Patriot Act, this America?

> America? The one with all the spying, NSA, Patriot Act, this America?

Yes. We do all of that. But so does practically everyone else. The difference is our federal structure and--until recently--independent courts provided a bit more oversight than other countries' citizens had access to. And we've had--until recently--respect for privacy held deeply enough by enough people that it turns into a stink at the federal level in at least some respect.

Most countries have national logging requirements, disclosure requirements and domestic police with the powers of the NSA. (America remains one of the few countries in which one can form a legal entity with zero identification.)

Obviously if this agreement conflicts with the patriot act, it’s unpatriotic and America is right not to sign it.