People are used to thinking that humans were animalistic savages right up until their favored religion or ancient city-state popped up, believing that the hunter-gatherer existence would've been so harsh that there was no room to care for vulnerable members of the group.
Some people like to think that we were brutal or cruel in the ancient past and would have left people to die. (Generally I think the implication is that we should do this again?)
People still think that. They will use violence and men with guns to enforce welfare schemes because they believe without the government people won't help others and therefore their violence is justified.
They're using violence against charities? If you're talking about the Israelis or the US insofar as they support the prevention of aid reaching gaza, sure. Generally it's quite rare I think.
When you talk about "men with guns" in reference to a welfare state, you're really talking about the process of taxation and the taxes being used to create a safety net for people. But it's telling that when you're trying to counter someone talking about the government being used to strip away these things from people through the executive branch and not the legislative branch, you suddenly require there to be real, physical violence before you'll accept the example.
No, I'm saying the opposite of using violence to fund charity would be using violence against charity.
I don't need to see further evidence to believe it's happened, I'm aware it is being used against some charities (Gaza aid organizations for instance). I literally acknowledged such and then you go on some weird tangent about me needing evidence.
Is it ? These hunter gatherers would probably be shocked at how we treat old people in hospitals and retirement houses, despite all our modern "common sense"
the article makes no mention of caring for the old. no doubt almost all hunter gatherers would be incredibly shocked that we put so much effort into keeping our old alive, particularly when it provides so little advantage and they don't even live with us
Many things were common sense,... until they weren't.
On the other hand, it's common sense now, who knew how it was back then? ...except for the researchers researching this... and now us, reading the article.
Pretty sure what went down in Late Holocene Patagonia isn’t common sense.
What makes you say that?
People are used to thinking that humans were animalistic savages right up until their favored religion or ancient city-state popped up, believing that the hunter-gatherer existence would've been so harsh that there was no room to care for vulnerable members of the group.
Some people like to think that we were brutal or cruel in the ancient past and would have left people to die. (Generally I think the implication is that we should do this again?)
People still think that. They will use violence and men with guns to enforce welfare schemes because they believe without the government people won't help others and therefore their violence is justified.
Except now it’s the complete opposite.
They're using violence against charities? If you're talking about the Israelis or the US insofar as they support the prevention of aid reaching gaza, sure. Generally it's quite rare I think.
When you talk about "men with guns" in reference to a welfare state, you're really talking about the process of taxation and the taxes being used to create a safety net for people. But it's telling that when you're trying to counter someone talking about the government being used to strip away these things from people through the executive branch and not the legislative branch, you suddenly require there to be real, physical violence before you'll accept the example.
No, I'm saying the opposite of using violence to fund charity would be using violence against charity.
I don't need to see further evidence to believe it's happened, I'm aware it is being used against some charities (Gaza aid organizations for instance). I literally acknowledged such and then you go on some weird tangent about me needing evidence.
Is it ? These hunter gatherers would probably be shocked at how we treat old people in hospitals and retirement houses, despite all our modern "common sense"
the article makes no mention of caring for the old. no doubt almost all hunter gatherers would be incredibly shocked that we put so much effort into keeping our old alive, particularly when it provides so little advantage and they don't even live with us
Many things were common sense,... until they weren't.
On the other hand, it's common sense now, who knew how it was back then? ...except for the researchers researching this... and now us, reading the article.
It's one thing to declare it to be "common sense," and quite another to actually know it to be true from physical evidence.