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mothballed 8 days ago  [ - ]

Houses built from advantage of SB79 are encumbered by the fact virtually every typical piece of pipe used to build a house is made a controlled material requiring a background check, under SB704.

dcrazy 8 days ago  [ - ]

Please stop repeating this intentionally ridiculous misinterpretation all over this thread.

mothballed 8 days ago  [ - ]

Please read it. I'm 100% right.

     As used in Section 33700, “firearm barrel” means the tube, usually metal and cylindrical, through which a projectile or shot charge is fired. A firearm barrel includes any forging, casting, printing, extrusion, machined body, or similar article that has reached a stage in manufacture where it may readily be completed, assembled, or converted to be used as a firearm barrel, or that is marketed or sold to the public to become or be used as a firearm barrel once completed, assembled, or converted. A firearm barrel may have a rifled or smooth bore.
Put compressed air (or maybe some capped off black powder) in tube, it will expel a projectile. PVC pipes are readily convertible into a tube through which a projectile is fired.

Have you read the bill? It literally outlaws (without background check) any piece of pipe which you can readily fire a projectile from. You can do that with pretty much any pipe, just by adjusting the charge and projectile size/type.

Even the process used to make PVC pipes is explicitly called out, which is extrusion.

dcrazy 8 days ago  [ - ]

Your farcical take is predicated on an interpretation of the above paragraph in which the bill claims anything from which a projectile may be expelled is a firearm barrel.

That is clearly not what the bill says, nor can it even be tortuously misconstrued as such.

doctorpangloss 8 days ago  [ - ]

I am sympathetic to the guy’s crank interpretation, because that’s exactly how lawsuits against development that drag on for ages work.

mothballed 8 days ago  [ - ]

It's also the way prosecutors constantly charge people with other laws.

They can drag in a potato cannon, maybe light it with some black powder if compressed air doesn't "count", and show that the PVC pipe readily expelled the projectile and thus the pipe by itself is a "firearm barrel" if it can readily be placed into such a potato gun. It would be no problem to prosecute someone for selling the PVC pipe to a plumber and 100% meet the letter of the law.

I don't see that as farcical but rather a straightforward application of the law. Maybe you find the law farcical/cranky but my interpretation isn't.

epistasis 8 days ago  [ - ]

That's a bug of the judicial system's speed rather than the interpretation of law. A groundless lawsuit still needs to be heard through a glacial system before the result can be determined.

When time is money, such delays are takings from the applicant, and work like mafia protection money.

mothballed 8 days ago  [ - ]

   A firearm barrel includes any forging, casting, printing, extrusion, machined body, or similar article that has reached a stage in manufacture where it may readily be completed, assembled, or converted to be used as a firearm barrel

  “firearm barrel” means the tube, usually metal and cylindrical, through which a projectile or shot charge is fired
It's not farcical. A PVC pipe is an extrusion that is "readily converted" into a tube that fires a projectile. It's clear as day. Have you never seen someone fire a "potato" gun and use PVC as a barrel?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tS2jKYbzsnA