I've read Sanger's article and in fact I acknowledge what he calls systemic bias, and also mentioned hidden cliques in my earlier comment, which are unfortunately a fact of human society. I think Wikipedia's consensus does represent the nonextremist consensus of English speaking, extremely online people; I'm fine with sidelining extremist beliefs.

I think other opinions of Sanger re: neutrality, public voting on articles, etc, are debatable to say the least (I don't believe people voting on articles means anything beyond what facebook likes mean, and so I wonder what Sanger is proposing here; true neutrality is impossible in any encyclopedia; presenting every viewpoint as equally valid is a fool's errand and fundamentally misguided).

But let's not make this debate longer: LLMs are fundamentally more obscure and opaque than Wikipedia is.

I disagree with Sanfer

> I disagree with Sanfer

Disregard that last sentence, my message was cut off, I couldn't finish it, and I don't even remember what I was trying to say :D