Sorry—I feel bad about moving this one because you were on the downhill (good!) side of the contrarian dynamic (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45542904), but the subthread mostly reverted to the uphill (bad!) side, in keeping with this sequence of sadness:

  1. objections
  2. objection to the objections (<-- you were here)
  3. objections to the objection to the objections
...so it veered further off topic. (and yes I suppose my comment here is a 4-th order objection)