Thank god. Finally an end (for now) to the bloodshed. Hopefully an opportunity to take that psycho Netanyahu out of office (and to the Hague, where he should rot)
So Trump promised F-35s to Qatar and Turkey and they managed to strong arm hamas into releasing the hostages. But the rest of agreement will not happen.
Basically no one in Israel believes in that, NO ONE. For Hamas it's too sweet of a deal to trap Israel again into bombing campaigns since its power comes from deaths of its own people ( specially on the international stage) and also the coming elections in Israel, Netanyahu will need to show that Hamas is going to be eradicated (and with hostages back, the "left" will not have any problems with that).
I am cautiously optimistic. But also curious what this community thinks about Trump‘s role. If this progresses, does he deserve a Nobel peace prize for it? Or is it more that other nations in the region applied pressure for Hamas to accept a deal?
Sure, only if he brought peace (unity) to the only country he is suppose to be leading; instead of his violent, misrepresentative comments and actions towards Americans and American cities that didn't vote for him. Heal the wounds he caused, condoned and encouraged. Stop dividing the US. Stop the hate towards out-group Americans. Actually care about and be a leader for America First. All of America/ns.
Being the figurative 800-pound gorilla in the room, it seems to me that he was indeed able to put sufficient pressure on both sides to get them to agree. Obviously it's still too early to know if it will last, but if it does, and if he can then somehow put pressure to get actual normalization between Israel and the rest of the Middle East, then I would personally chip in to get him the Nobel.
normalization between israel, SA and other countries were on fast track till oct 7. One of the goals of hamas was to prevent it https://archive.is/IYqT4
I remember this. If I resell, Saudi Arabia was ready to formally recognize Israel and establish mutual diplomatic relations. A huge deal, and the timing of October 7 seems too exact to be coincidental. The attack did work - polls show the citizenry of Saudi Arabia is overwhelmingly aligned with Hamas, with over 95% denying the atrocities (murder, rape, mutilation) of October 7.
No idea why this was flagged… It is political, sure, but so have numerous anti-Israel stories that have been unflagged and shown on the homepage
This seems obviously of interest to hackers
Given the track record, I think we all know to wait and see.
Agreed.
Thank god. Finally an end (for now) to the bloodshed. Hopefully an opportunity to take that psycho Netanyahu out of office (and to the Hague, where he should rot)
Elections in Israel are 1 year away.
Pretty sure that second coming is more likely than Bibi been tried for anything in Hague
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Let's hope Israel actually sticks to this ceasefire deal this time.
That won't happen. Hamas will not disarm.
So Trump promised F-35s to Qatar and Turkey and they managed to strong arm hamas into releasing the hostages. But the rest of agreement will not happen. Basically no one in Israel believes in that, NO ONE. For Hamas it's too sweet of a deal to trap Israel again into bombing campaigns since its power comes from deaths of its own people ( specially on the international stage) and also the coming elections in Israel, Netanyahu will need to show that Hamas is going to be eradicated (and with hostages back, the "left" will not have any problems with that).
Good news
I am cautiously optimistic. But also curious what this community thinks about Trump‘s role. If this progresses, does he deserve a Nobel peace prize for it? Or is it more that other nations in the region applied pressure for Hamas to accept a deal?
Sure, only if he brought peace (unity) to the only country he is suppose to be leading; instead of his violent, misrepresentative comments and actions towards Americans and American cities that didn't vote for him. Heal the wounds he caused, condoned and encouraged. Stop dividing the US. Stop the hate towards out-group Americans. Actually care about and be a leader for America First. All of America/ns.
Being the figurative 800-pound gorilla in the room, it seems to me that he was indeed able to put sufficient pressure on both sides to get them to agree. Obviously it's still too early to know if it will last, but if it does, and if he can then somehow put pressure to get actual normalization between Israel and the rest of the Middle East, then I would personally chip in to get him the Nobel.
normalization between israel, SA and other countries were on fast track till oct 7. One of the goals of hamas was to prevent it https://archive.is/IYqT4
I remember this. If I resell, Saudi Arabia was ready to formally recognize Israel and establish mutual diplomatic relations. A huge deal, and the timing of October 7 seems too exact to be coincidental. The attack did work - polls show the citizenry of Saudi Arabia is overwhelmingly aligned with Hamas, with over 95% denying the atrocities (murder, rape, mutilation) of October 7.
saudi government will massage messaging in official press, a bit of repressions and will sign agreement with israel.
iirc prior to oct 7 those voices that were too much against signing agreement with israel were spanked. or maybe it was in ae. don't remember exactly