> This is all moot because greenfield projects rarely exist anymore outside of being an entrepreneur, and if you're selling something, you're probably using a shopify wrapper of some sort 99% of the time. If you're working on a greenfield project at a Fortune company, then you probably have a bunch of considerations and in-house frameworks you'll use as a jumping off point instead of running `rails new` at any point.

I have no idea how one manages to be a HN reader and come out with a proclamation like "there are no greenfield projects left".

Neither venerable monoliths nor Fortune 500 companies represent the mean website. You're looking at highly visible outliers and ignoring the forest for the few redwoods that poke above the rest.

The care that's put into ensuring `rails new` creates something sane and basically production ready is exemplary. It's the missing middle between Hello World and terse API autodocs that so many tools just lack. Whether one uses Rails or not, this is something to emulate, not glibly denigrate.