I couldn’t agree more, I’ve worked with Ruby/Rails for the past 10 years, and the youngest codebase I saw was 5 years old at that point.

I did work on greenfield Rails apps but they were API only “microservices” so none of this FE stuff was needed.

In any nontrivial company, the Rails homegrown FE solutions are ignored entirely because you can’t hire Hotwire devs but you can hire plenty of React/Vue devs.

Also, the Rails “FE” stack has changed plenty and it’s also hard to keep up with it (remember CoffeeScript?), is poorly documented beyond the trivial hello world and like I said, has absolutely no mindshare.

So these discussions are entirely disconnected from the real world.