> much easier for Obama to do it because there were not throngs of protesters trying to stop his ICE officers
Yes there were [1][2]. New York City Council members were arrested [3].
Obama's ICE was simply more focussed on detaining and deterring illegal immigrants because immigration was a political liability for him. For Trump, efficiacy isn't as important as messaging.
I think the Democrat's strategic fuck up is not standing for up for US democracy, always.
Part of that is saying "immigration is good, actually", instead of conceding political positions to the right as they poison our politics.
The Dems should have created a counter-narrative. If you believe in liberal, multi-ethnic democracy, then you must say so. The lesson (that I suppose people have forgotten from history) is that our freedoms (as I am talking about it) must be defended, always, and not taken for granted.
Great question! It was pretty clear that people would be protesting Trump from the day he was re-elected. His methods undoubtedly haven't helped, but I'm pretty sure there would have been protesters regardless.
I don't have the links handy, but ISTR that both Obama and Biden counted turning folks away at the border as equivalent to a deportation. That juices the deportation metrics without being nearly so disruptive.
> much easier for Obama to do it because there were not throngs of protesters trying to stop his ICE officers
Yes there were [1][2]. New York City Council members were arrested [3].
Obama's ICE was simply more focussed on detaining and deterring illegal immigrants because immigration was a political liability for him. For Trump, efficiacy isn't as important as messaging.
[1] https://www.voanews.com/a/barack-obama-immigration-raids-pro...
[2] https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3793700
[3] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/protest-arrests/211895...
Assumed political liability.
At the time, sure. With the benefit of hindsight, one of Democrats’ strategic fuckups over the last decade was forgetting that it is one.
I think the Democrat's strategic fuck up is not standing for up for US democracy, always.
Part of that is saying "immigration is good, actually", instead of conceding political positions to the right as they poison our politics.
The Dems should have created a counter-narrative. If you believe in liberal, multi-ethnic democracy, then you must say so. The lesson (that I suppose people have forgotten from history) is that our freedoms (as I am talking about it) must be defended, always, and not taken for granted.
What's the cause and what's the effect? Less protests because ICE under Obama wasn't taking such a heavy handed and legally gray approach perhaps?
Great question! It was pretty clear that people would be protesting Trump from the day he was re-elected. His methods undoubtedly haven't helped, but I'm pretty sure there would have been protesters regardless.
I don't have the links handy, but ISTR that both Obama and Biden counted turning folks away at the border as equivalent to a deportation. That juices the deportation metrics without being nearly so disruptive.