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It isn't the same operator overloading.

In C++ operator overloading can easily mess with fundamental mechanisms, often intentionally; in Python it is usually no more dangerous than defining regular functions and usually employed purposefully for types that form nice algebraic structures.

pjmlp 2 days ago [ - ]

I hardly see the difference, given the capabilities of operator overloading in Python,

    class MyNum(int):
        def __add__ (self, other):
            return super().__add__(other) * 10
        
        
    n = MyNum(12)
    a = 45
    print(n + a) # oops

HelloNurse 2 days ago [ - ]

This type confusion would have been identical with a plain function, __add__ is only syntactic sugar:

    class MyNum(int):
        def ten_times_sum (self, other):
            return (self+other)* 10

    n = MyNum(12)
    a = 45
    print(n.ten_times_sum(a))

Compare with, for example, fouling the state of output streams from operator>> in C++.

pjmlp 2 days ago [ - ]

Hardly any different, trying to pretend Python is somehow better.

Operator overload is indeed syntactic sugar for function calls, regardless of the language.

By the way, you can overload >> in Python via rshift(), or __rshift__() methods.

HelloNurse 2 days ago [ - ]

Of course I can overload >> in Python, but I cannot foul up output stream state because it doesn't exist. Formally there is little difference between C++ and Python operator overloading and both languages have good syntax for it, but C++ has many rough edges in the standard library and intrinsic complications that can make operator overloading much more interesting in practice. For instance, overload resolution is rarely trivial.

pjmlp 2 days ago [ - ]

It is only one pip install away, if anyone bothers to make on such set of overloads.

boxed 2 days ago [ - ]

People don't though. That's the big difference. There's a certain taste in the Python community.

boxed 2 days ago [ - ]

It's the exact same thing except in Python the community largely has taste. In C++ `cout >> "foo"` exists in the standard library.

quotemstr 2 days ago [ - ]

I love how among a certain set the word "taste" has become an all-purpose substitute for having an argument or making a case. It basically means "I have more social media follows than you do, so I'm right"

boxed a day ago [ - ]

I believe the C++ community as a whole are quite convinced that overloading >> for stdout was a mistake.