It's weird to me that "owning a computer that runs stuff" is now "self-hosting", just feels like an odd phrasing. Like there's an assumption that all computers belong to someone else now, so we have to specify that we're using our own.
Let's not kid ourselves that maintaining 10TB with resiliency handling and other controls built in is something that is trivial. It is only trivial due to the offerings that Cloud computing has made easy.
Self-hosting implies those features without the cloud element and not just buying a computer.
10tb fits on one disk though - it may not be trivial but it's not overly complicated setting up a raid-1. Off-site redundancy and backup of course does make it more complicated however.
You can buy a 10TB+ external drive which uses RAID1.
You can also buy a computer with this — not a laptop, and I don't know about budget desktops, but on Dell's site (for example) it's just a drop-down selection box.
It’s not clear from the blog post if the S3 is accessible from outside their home. I agree with the parent that purely local services aren’t what typically counts as “self-hosting”.
Does this JBOD consist of SSD? HDDs in that amount can be rather noisy.
Yeah they are HDs and are surprisingly noisy.
It's weird to me that "owning a computer that runs stuff" is now "self-hosting", just feels like an odd phrasing. Like there's an assumption that all computers belong to someone else now, so we have to specify that we're using our own.
Think services
You can own a computer and not run any services at all. Most people do.
Deciding to run your own services, like email, means a lot of work that most people aren’t interested or capable of doing.
It’s the difference between using your computer to consume things or produce things.
Let's not kid ourselves that maintaining 10TB with resiliency handling and other controls built in is something that is trivial. It is only trivial due to the offerings that Cloud computing has made easy.
Self-hosting implies those features without the cloud element and not just buying a computer.
> Let's not kid ourselves that maintaining 10TB with resiliency handling and other controls built in is something that is trivial.
It is though. People in tech need to stop pretending everything they are doing is super complicated.
Moot point. It really depends on your expectations.
Self-hosting 10TB in an enterprise context is trivial.
Self hosting 10TB at home is easy.
The thing is: once you learn enough ZFS, whether you’re hosting 10 or 200TB it doesn’t change much.
The real challenge is justifying to yourself spending for all those disks. But if it’s functional to yourself spending hobby…
10tb fits on one disk though - it may not be trivial but it's not overly complicated setting up a raid-1. Off-site redundancy and backup of course does make it more complicated however.
And all of those things are more steps than "buying a computer".
Reminds me of the "Dropbox can be built in a weekend"
You can buy a 10TB+ external drive which uses RAID1.
You can also buy a computer with this — not a laptop, and I don't know about budget desktops, but on Dell's site (for example) it's just a drop-down selection box.
We call it self hosting because it is typically hosted by someone else, get it?
Kind of like how installing got renamed to side-loading.
It’s not clear from the blog post if the S3 is accessible from outside their home. I agree with the parent that purely local services aren’t what typically counts as “self-hosting”.