Those on the left also quite often suffer from letting perfect be the enemy of good. I've had a few friends over the years who would seem to prefer nothing be done rather than make incremental progress. I.e., how people will be critical of a carbon tax to help reduce emissions simply because it's not good enough, even if its a step in the right direction. We've seen it with health care as well. It's "medicare for all or bust."

I appreciate the sentiment of wanting the right/perfect solution, but the perfect solution doesn't happen all at once. Often times a compromise is needed in order to help people right now, not hypothetically in the future. Sometimes that means you end up being less inclusive, but so be it if shit gets done.

This is something that Barack Obama used to complain about. Incremental progress is progress.

Talking from personal experience, it applies also. Perfectionists like me are often deadlocked into not releasing something until it's perfectly executed, caters to every use case, takes every edge case into account, etc. My late cofounder spent (too much) time training me otherwise, that small incremental changes will compound into larger ones in a big enough timescale, and that it's more effective to simply get started than deliberate ages over it.

Definitely. Right now they’re “cancelling” Bill Burr because he went and did a show in Saudi Arabia. One of the left’s staunchest allies for years and one of the few males on the left that young boys can actually identify with and he’s in the trashcan for doing a show with the Saudis. It’s bonkers.

If anyone is not cancelable it Bill Burr. Cancel culture is pretty defanged at the moment.

Now we get US Government and POTUS backed cancel culture in the form of lawfare / weaponized partisan govt agencies instead.

Action by the state cannot be cancel culture by definition, that's just sparkling repression.

I'm a leftist who has been a Bill Burr fan, and who is wildly disappointed he did a show in Saudi Arabia because of the naked hypocrisy of it.

Listen to his own past comments (starting at 30 seconds in):

https://youtu.be/1Jp4Ce8yStA?si=wThUQtlRJo07Qn1Y&t=30

He did exactly what past him was (rightfully) calling someone else out for. So, yeah, I think its fair game to call him out for it.

Voicing your displeasure that someone did something is not "cancelling" them (whatever that even means anymore).

Don’t kid yourself, you are effectively “canceling” them in an environment where the federal government is already making it hard for them to express their views. The left needs to have more of a long term view rather than just pulling down all the people standing up for them at the slightest deviation from what is expected. Soon there won’t be anyone left and the other team is chomping at the bit to eat you up.

‘Effectively canceling?’ Is Bill Burr silenced somehow?

Ironically, he is being silenced - the contracts he signed in order to perform prohibit badmouthing the Saudi regime and its policies

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I'm not "left", but I liked Bill Burr even though he's fairly uneducated and populist.

That's because Bill Burr is a hypocrite for it. He complains about billionaires and the rich, complains about not enough free speech (but Saudi stipulation was censorship about royals and religion), and complains about other people doing exactly what he did[0] (still sleazy if he says he'd do it too). He acts like he's Carlin, rants about other people's $ but he's really only about his own $ too.

People thought he held sincere ethics and would speak on them. They're disappointed he's just another greedy rich guy he was complaining to everyone about.

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>Those on the left also quite often suffer from letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Exactly, its because they are idealist. Its also not hard to follow this observation over to Europe, pretty much the epicenter of idealism on earth, and then look around. Oh yeah, much more liberal than the US, with countless examples of idealism throughout. One of the current such examples is how Europe sees Putin, and how the East sees him.

The antidote to the idealism are individuals with confidence, and of course testosterone. Elements which when put in a pot with the aforementioned mix violently. You need people saying, well, this is good enough, and if its not I'll come up with something that'll fix it, when that happens.

As usual, a mix of both is needed.

I disagree. These half ass solutions come from parties with vested interests and effectively amount to inaction while taking the wind out of the sales of any real action. Carbon tax (the kind with credits and offsets) is a license to pollute. A direct tax on carbon would actually force them to change which would be bad for the economy so we can't have that. Compromise (listening to NIMBYS and lobbyists) is exactly what not to do. You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.