> Nothing wrong with deliberation and listening to stakeholders. Great idea.

True if you can identify the correct stakeholders and those stakeholders are aligned to the goal.

It becomes unhelpful when the list of stakeholders is so long and disconnected from the goal that listening to stakeholders becomes an endless cycle of meetings and talking about the problem instead of doing anything about it.

In my local experience, initiatives related to homelessness and drug addiction treatment attract a lot of people who like the idea of being involved because it advances their career or sounds good on their resume, but many of them are unqualified to be involved and think the role will involve a lot of delegation and deciding where to send money to other groups, not actually doing any of the work directly.

Basically, a lot of people who want to be in charge and claim leadership but who also don’t want to actually do the hard work.