> This is like saying that self-driving cars won't ever become a thing because someone behind the wheel needs to be to blame.

Which is literally the case so far. No manufacturer has shown any willingness to take on the liability of self driving at any scale to date. Waymo has what? 700 cars on the road with the finances and lawyers of Google backing it.

Let me know when the bean counters sign off on fleets in the millions of vehicles.

> Waymo has what? 700 cars on the road ...

They have over 2000 on the road and are growing: https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/31/techcrunch-mobility-a-new-...

Of course there's 200M+ personal vehicles registered in the US.

Operating in carefully selected urban locations with no severe weather. They are nowhere close to general purpose FSD.

Self driving cars in 2025 in USA is like Solar PV in China in 2010, it will take a while, but give them time to learn, adapt and expand.

And where the solar panel were in China in 2000? Because self-driving cars on public roads in USA have been a WIP for 10 years at least.

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Yes and I would swear that 1700 of those 2000 must be in Westwood (near UCLA in Los Angeles). I was stopped for a couple minutes waiting for a friend to come out and I counted 7 Waymos driving past me in 60 seconds. Truth be told they seemed to be driving better than the meatbags around them.

(brainfart)

2000 is only 1 of every 100,000

You also have Mercedes taking responsibility for their traffic-jam-on-highways autopilot. But yeah. It's those two examples so far (not sure what exactly the state of Tesla is. But.. yeah, not going to spend the time to find out either)

Merceds has accepted a degree of liability? https://www.prescouter.com/2024/04/mercedes-benz-level-3-dri...