Below $200 laptops are way worse than what people imagine.
Too many people look at ads, see something that looks like a laptop, and assume it's just a "no thrill" machine that mostly works. I've heard so many "how bad can it be?" hot takes as they've never used anything at that price.
※refurbished is another story, here we're talking about a new and under guarantee device so that wouldn't compare.
Lon Seidman just reviewed a $180 HP laptop from Walmart. Intel N150 processor, can run Linux and has upgradable RAM and storage:
https://youtu.be/FRNz-xakWB8
But then, 2 min into the video they upgrade to 16G RAM and a 1TB SSD before going on to check the perfs. That's a testament to me of how usable they think the laptop is in its sold state.
Looks like the SSD is about $80 on Amazon.com and the RAM maybe $30+, so that's already a significant fraction of the device's original price.
Still reasonably affordable, though. But it's not under $200.
You can buy a near mint lenovo l14 gen 3 from 2022 for $200. I know this because I bought one for my in-laws a few days ago.
You don't get support and the laptop can fail on you on week 4 you're just SOL.
I understand the value of second hand, and randomly bought a discarded corporate HP tower for my home server. But I see it more as a hobby as I can probably fix most issues, than as a purchasing strategy I'd recommend to non technical people for instance.
If you're really concerned, you can buy two $100 secondhand laptops. If one fails, you can use the other. Good secondhand laptops in that price range will be more like 8 or 10 years old, but still usable as basic daily computers.
I've had an excellent experience using secondhand business-class laptops. Several nonprofits I'm involved have nothing but these sorts of laptops, and I've only used secondhand laptops since 2019.
I guess I'm just lucky because none of the 8 laptops I've bought used off ebay in the last 13 years have failed yet.
Why that specific model, tho? I'm looking for something like that. Are there other worthy models?
If you're interested in buying secondhand laptops, I strongly recommend you look at any "business-class" model from any manufacturer. Laptops that cost $1,000+ and are aimed at business fleets, rather than individual consumers. These laptops tend to be very well-made, are designed for commonly-broken parts to be easily replaceable, and are widely available secondhand as companies update their laptop fleets. Here's an incomplete list of manufacturers and series:
* Dell Latitude (except the budget 3xxx models) and Precision * HP EliteBook and ProBook * Lenovo ThinkPad X, T, and P series (in order from small & light to big & powerful) * Panasonic ToughBook (rugged!) and Let’s Note * Fujitsu Lifebook * Acer TravelMate and Extensa * Asus ExpertBook * Toshibe Portege and Tecra * Epson Endeavor
To harp on avhon's point, ThinkPads have specific lines where most parts are made to be easily replaceable: the RAM, SSD, wi-fi card, fans etc. are user accessible. Not all ThinkPads do, so you need to at least care about the line (X, P, T, E, etc., it's a whole world), and check the repair guides and community reception.
Panasonic also has a stellar reputation in that regard.
Bear in mind they will break and you'll be hunting for parts, it's just a lot easier and viable than some other laptops.
I bought that specific model because they're a step up from the E-series (which is actually good now), but not as expensive as the X or T series. I'm very familiar with Thinkpads (I personally have owned 5, and have bought 3 for family, all used, all functioning perfectly). That specific model does not have soldered ram, has lots of replacement parts, is still fairly new, I'd owned an L14 Gen 1, and to be honest, it was just a good deal considering it was in mint condition.
With thinkpads, assuming you're buying used, you can pay the premium for a T or X series, and get a laptop with essentially the same parts, but maybe a better screen or chassis, or you can save money and go with the L or E series. NB, the T and X series oftentimes have soldered RAM, so if you're not satisfied with the amount of ram already in it, do your due diligence to ensure that the model support using SODIMM/replacing the ram.
Yes. I bought a 200€ laptop a decade ago. It was on clearance sale, so no backsies. It was so bad I couldn’t in good conscience ask for more than 50€ when I sold it like 2 days later.
It was great on paper. But the quality of the touchpad was awful. And paired with win8, which relied heavily on touchpad gestures, it was basically unusable.
I bought a Thinkpad t80 and had been pretty good so far