I realized long ago that full unattended self driving requires AGI. I think Elon finally figured that out. So now LLMs are going to evolve into AGI any moment. Um no. Tesla (and others) have effectively been working on AGI for 10 years with no luck

> I realized long ago that full unattended self driving requires AGI.

Not even close.

The vast majority of people have a small number of local routes completely memorized and do station keeping in between on the big freeways.

You can see this when signage changes on some local route and absolute chaos ensues until all the locals re-memorize the route.

Once Waymo has memorized all those local routes (admittedly a big task), it's done.

> I realized long ago that full unattended self driving requires AGI.

Yikes.

I recommend you take some introductory courses on AI and theory of computation.

You should either elaborate on your argument, or at least provide further reading that clarifies your point of contention. This kind of low effort nerd-sniping contributes nothing.

Responding to ridiculous uncited wild comments doesn't require a phd thesis paper, my friend.

GP's statement is completely unsupported, the burden is on them.

It's commonly brought up saying, and I don't think it's too far from the truth.

Driving under every condition requires a very deep level of understanding of the word. Sure, you can get to like 60% by a simple robot vacuum logic, and to like 90% with what e.g. Waymo does. But the remaining 10% is crazy complex.

What about a plastic bag floating around on a highway? The car can see it, but is it an obstacle to avoid? Should it slam the brakes? And there are a bunch of other extreme examples (what about a hilly road on a Greek island where people just honk to notify the other side that they are coming, without seeing them?)

That comment isn't going to age well.

> I realized long ago that full unattended self driving requires AGI.

You can do 99% of it without AGI, but you do need it for the last 1%.

Unfortunately, the same is true for AGI.

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So waymo has AGI?

They deliberately (and smartly) set their working limits to what they can solve - known city, always decent weather conditions. And they still added a way for a remote operator to solve certain situations.

So no, they don't have AGI and there is a lot to reach "working under every condition everywhere" levels of self-driving.